RE: Spotted: Mercedes 500E (W124)
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M Powered said:
ClassicMercs said:
The is a diesel estate LHD near us now up to 1M km.
Most of the Yellow saloon versions I got in on Madeira were 800+. Hence why they are sought after I guess.mccrackenj said:
Wife & I were in Madiera for the 1st time last month. She started to get a bit frustrated at me, hanging around the taxi ranks. At 1st I was waiting until a W124 or W201 made it to the front of the queue before I would get in it, then I started getting fussy and waiting until a pre-facelift w124 got to the front. Never did manage to get one of the early, pre-Sacco panel W124s though - even though there are plenty of them. Had to slum it in a W202 twice and a bl00dy Seat peple carrier once.
I've done a similar thing when in the US but the reasons for holding out for a Ford Crown Victoria or Impala etc were rather different than for a W124.
Epic cars, but there are a lot of urban myths surrounding the "unique parts" used by Porsche in the building of the 500E
A lot of believers will disagree with me, but they are basically a parts bin special.
Mercedes actually built a 400E on the completely standard W124 platform, the 400E V8 being an externally identical engine to the 500E.
Most of the "special" parts are R129SL hybrid parts.
Suspension, brakes, rear axle unit are all SL, complete with SL part numbers.
The "wide track" suspension used to fill the 500E arches is basically the wider offset wheels from the SL used on the W124.
A lot of believers will disagree with me, but they are basically a parts bin special.
Mercedes actually built a 400E on the completely standard W124 platform, the 400E V8 being an externally identical engine to the 500E.
Most of the "special" parts are R129SL hybrid parts.
Suspension, brakes, rear axle unit are all SL, complete with SL part numbers.
The "wide track" suspension used to fill the 500E arches is basically the wider offset wheels from the SL used on the W124.
The Crack Fox said:
E30M3SE said:
yachtie said:
Well spotted.- both front foglights are stone-chipped
- rust underneath the rear screen, inside the nearside A-pillar door jamb and underneath the plastic sill protector strips.
- rust bubbles have recently appeared under the rear tail lights and A and C pillars.
- front discs will need replacing, rear pads and discs will need replacing in the near future"
This is a thread by the owner of Mercland - gives you some idea...
http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/bodywork/139545-mer...
Wills2 said:
Phwoar. And what a price! Pr1964 said:
Baryonyx said:
Phwoar. And what a price!
Decimal point in the wrong place that should read £7,950 LOL and that's all I'd pay for it. Garbarge ...Priced to test the market I'll grant you, but you don't half spout some drivel.
Pr1964 said:
It looks like 50 quids worth of pseudo rapper Peckham trash...
What a heap...
That's a bit of a troll comment. It's patently not a heap - it's an apparently immaculate, exceptionally well engineered car (one of Mercedes' better efforts) fitted with a bespoke V12 engine that it shares with the Pagani Zonda. I grant you that a black SL of that generation with super-wide alloys and an exhaust does look more than a bit sarf London rude boy, but that's hardly the car's fault - it was after all built for the royal family of Brunei, whose special-order cars are rarely subtle or tasteful bits of kit (Ferrari 456 Venice honourably excepted). Plus, on the rude boy front, you can say exactly the same thing about an E46 M3 CSL and no right-minded petrolhead suggests those are heaps!What a heap...
Whether it's really worth £70+k is debatable (I personally wouldn't pay half that for it), but then again the only other way to get that apparently fantastic engine is in a Zonda costing squillions more and looking only slightly less attention-grabbing than if you drove down the street in a Challenger tank (which might also be better-looking than a Zonda). So I can see why someone might think it was worth quite a chunk of change over a regular SL600 of a similar vintage and mileage.
Just shows how daft things have gone, sure its alright but that buys you a lot of other Mercs, bit of emperors new clothes really, but because it is old and a w124 it must immediately be better than anything that has come after it, I think they are over eulogized, quite happy to leave that to the wealthy beards, was worth seven grand though.
J4CKO said:
Just shows how daft things have gone, sure its alright but that buys you a lot of other Mercs, bit of emperors new clothes really, but because it is old and a w124 it must immediately be better than anything that has come after it, I think they are over eulogized, quite happy to leave that to the wealthy beards, was worth seven grand though.
Prices are completely batst. At £10k for one of these you'd be getting a good deal (this was hovering around the typical price for an import when I was looking 2-3 years back, for an alternative to an E34 M5). At £15k, you'd still pay if you wanted one (about the price for a UK car in 2013). But at over £20k, it's a "collector's item" (being kind, at least some will fall to spivs / profiteers) only fit for storage - occasional use possible but unlikely. Something like this deserves to be a DD imo. It's entirely modern enough if you have the resources to keep it as it deserves.Depressing that such cars remain out of reach for all but the wealthiest among us. I don't automatically begrudge all those that can afford the current market though - hopefully they can enjoy them as more than investments...
I nearly bought a mint one a few years ago. Thought it was overpriced at 12k had the EVO wheels on it too.
Only ever seen 1 on the road ( was parked up at the Reebok carpark ) and looked great in black. Would still have one now, just not at todays prices -
http://www.jtautoclassics.com/page17.html
Only ever seen 1 on the road ( was parked up at the Reebok carpark ) and looked great in black. Would still have one now, just not at todays prices -
http://www.jtautoclassics.com/page17.html
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