RE: PH Blog: race cars for the road
Discussion
cliffie said:
DanielSan said:
How wrong had things gone at that point!?
They got more wrong, I have the full set on my laptop and whilst the tyre wall remained unvisited, it was suggested I should contact Flymo for sponsorship.A Twix for anybody that can spot where that took place...
p.s. that 962 just needs some rear parking sensors fitted and it'd be fine on the road ....
cliffie said:
DanielSan said:
How wrong had things gone at that point!?
They got more wrong, I have the full set on my laptop and whilst the tyre wall remained unvisited, it was suggested I should contact Flymo for sponsorship.A Twix for anybody that can spot where that took place...
cliffie said:
DanielSan said:
How wrong had things gone at that point!?
They got more wrong, I have the full set on my laptop and whilst the tyre wall remained unvisited, it was suggested I should contact Flymo for sponsorship.A Twix for anybody that can spot where that took place...
Just need to pick the right race car. I would happily swap my P1 to drive this everyday
And swap in the OHs Swift for this
Might have to buy a hammock for the poor dog though.
Sorry but Im not 100 and eleventy two years old.
Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
Pistonwot said:
Sorry but Im not 100 and eleventy two years old.
Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
The squidgyness of the seat, or the chill of the AC isn't the aspects of comfort that the 962 fundamentally lacks.Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
For me, it's the massively restricted vision out of the cockpit, the enormous footprint and overhangs would be nearly impossible to spot or place from the driver's seat, and the potential ferocity of the power delivery at "low" speeds (by low, I mean anything less than 100mph for a car like this). No amount of AC blast could stop me breaking out in a nervous sweat every time I ventured onto the public highway.
There is not a public road on the planet where a 997 GT2RS wouldn't be more fun, faster, safer, and more rewarding to drive.
Car's like this are the types where I'm glad they exist for stupidity's sake, but I don't want one.
Love this shot.
Works for me....
hardly a 'daily driver' but taxed and road legal
Seriously unplesant in any sort of traffic (on/off clutch and no power steering), but on smooth roads the suspension is fairly compliant and it's only really the tramlining-from-hell that intrudes. But it is my only 'open' car, so on a sunny day if I want to go for a wee spin, the Tuscan it is
Currently off the road while it gets a new motor, with a 'more than adequate' power increase...not that it was short of power before.
So yes, 'race cars on the road' are do-able, but the Tuscan's main purpose in life for me is track days and it's clear that you cant exploit any part of its performance on the road. So if you never venture on to a track with a road-going race car I'd say 'what's the point'?
But getting a race car/track car road registered makes a while lot of sense unless you have access to a private test track (which most folks don't have). Most of my [very limited] road miles are actually testing and ironing out the gremlins. Before mine was registered I lost so much track time fixing things that broke, fell-off or failed in the first few laps and then spent the rest of the session with the spanners out. At least I can run the car up the road before each outing and make sure everything's sound before arriving at a circuit.
...and go for occasional blasts in the summer and scare the good people of Fife spitting flames out the side-pipes
hardly a 'daily driver' but taxed and road legal
Seriously unplesant in any sort of traffic (on/off clutch and no power steering), but on smooth roads the suspension is fairly compliant and it's only really the tramlining-from-hell that intrudes. But it is my only 'open' car, so on a sunny day if I want to go for a wee spin, the Tuscan it is Currently off the road while it gets a new motor, with a 'more than adequate' power increase...not that it was short of power before.
So yes, 'race cars on the road' are do-able, but the Tuscan's main purpose in life for me is track days and it's clear that you cant exploit any part of its performance on the road. So if you never venture on to a track with a road-going race car I'd say 'what's the point'?
But getting a race car/track car road registered makes a while lot of sense unless you have access to a private test track (which most folks don't have). Most of my [very limited] road miles are actually testing and ironing out the gremlins. Before mine was registered I lost so much track time fixing things that broke, fell-off or failed in the first few laps and then spent the rest of the session with the spanners out. At least I can run the car up the road before each outing and make sure everything's sound before arriving at a circuit.
...and go for occasional blasts in the summer and scare the good people of Fife spitting flames out the side-pipes
I was thinking the exact same thing the other day. As much as I would love the AMG CLK-GTR I imagine it would be a complete and total nightmare to drive around in. Too wide, too bumpy, t#oo little visibility and no doubt a power delivery that would be hard to control in traffic. However it would still be f
king awesome riding around in it for a bit before you put it away after either a) stting yourself b) the back pain became unbearable.
king awesome riding around in it for a bit before you put it away after either a) stting yourself b) the back pain became unbearable. Pistonwot said:
Sorry but Im not 100 and eleventy two years old.
Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
It is not about comfortable it is about suitable. My race car is very comfy thanks and I feel very connected and snuggly in there, it is just not suitable for regular road use. All this from a all year round Fireblade rider for 15 years before family.Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
Although no longer a race car more track focused road car this was / is my daily chariot. Was built to go sprinting but got sponsored a MEV Exocet so this never actually turned a competitive wheel. But yea stripped out, noisy, no heater didn't make for terrific daily driver. Nor did kids in Saxo's trying to race me on the M25.
Now de-stickered and still setup exactly the same but probably won't be raced as I've bought a Tiger Avon (which isn't road legal)
Now de-stickered and still setup exactly the same but probably won't be raced as I've bought a Tiger Avon (which isn't road legal)
Edited by JamesHayward on Thursday 15th November 11:14
mat205125 said:
Pistonwot said:
Sorry but Im not 100 and eleventy two years old.
Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
The squidgyness of the seat, or the chill of the AC isn't the aspects of comfort that the 962 fundamentally lacks.Nor am I ready to jump into a coffin, just how comfortable do folk think cars need to be?
You lot of grannies had better not go near a motorbike, your tight blue rinsed perms will straighten,,, pffft.
I would have a 962 in half a heartbeat and would be happy to "put up with" the extreme nature of the vehicle, it is a legend and I would feel privileged every single second that I drove it.
Who cares if it was comfortable?
The fact is, I own a car, a sofa an armchair and a bed and will choose appropriately which I need.
I dont expect them all to do everything, that is stupid.
For me, it's the massively restricted vision out of the cockpit, the enormous footprint and overhangs would be nearly impossible to spot or place from the driver's seat, and the potential ferocity of the power delivery at "low" speeds (by low, I mean anything less than 100mph for a car like this). No amount of AC blast could stop me breaking out in a nervous sweat every time I ventured onto the public highway.
There is not a public road on the planet where a 997 GT2RS wouldn't be more fun, faster, safer, and more rewarding to drive.
Car's like this are the types where I'm glad they exist for stupidity's sake, but I don't want one.
The 962 is not large when compared to these gargantuan vehicles.
Spatial awareness is not dependant upon the model of car you are in, and the ferocity of the power delivery is only associated with your own right foot.
"There is not a public road on the planet where a 997 GT2RS wouldn't be more fun, faster, safer, and more rewarding to drive".
That is absolutely prepostorous, some folk are easily pleased.
Chris Harris said "that is the most fun Ive had in years" after driving it. Apparently that will be because the car is so difficult?
Nope, Id have the 962 primarily because I dont sit down to pee.
cliffie said:
Krikkit said:
DanielSan said:
A Twix for anybody that can spot where that took place...
It's Knockhill, but I'm not sure which corner. 
The ones that seem to work best are the homologation specials like the E30 M3, various Ford Cosworths, Integrale, Impreza Turbo and so on. And of course the GTV6 3.0 *ahem*
And I think that might be because they are probably more accurately described as road cars for the race track rather than race cars for the road.
And I think that might be because they are probably more accurately described as road cars for the race track rather than race cars for the road.
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