RE: SOTW: Peugeot 306 GTI6

RE: SOTW: Peugeot 306 GTI6

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clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Love the 306, especially in GTI6 form. Possibly the last good looking Peugeot?

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Sam1990 said:
Still looks great today.

I hear with a few tweaks these can be chasing down Civic Type Rs?
I reckon I cover the ground much quicker in my Rallye than I ever did in my CTRs. The engine has so much more torque and more useable gear ratios. It also has the most fantastic ride so it glides over broken surfaces that left the Civic bouncing around. It's the friendliest and most characterful car I've ever owned. I certainly wouldn't swap for a CTR. I can't speak highly enough of it.

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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clonmult said:
Possibly the last good looking Peugeot?
406 Coupe post dated it, no? Pretty close though. Certainly the cars of that generation were the last good looking thing to come out of Pug.

_Neal_

2,678 posts

220 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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PHMatt said:
People always bang on about the GTi6 but surely it's totally outgunned by the RS Clio's?
Yes, they are outgunned (I replaced a GTI-6 with a 172) but not "totally", and a decent GTI-6 can be had for around the £1k mark (I bought mine for £1100 2 years ago) whereas a 172 in similar condition is pushing £2k. I agree that the 306 has aged well too.

I prefered the driving position and steering (both for feel and responsiveness) on the GTI-6. They are excellent to drive, with superb handling, but the Clio is a smaller and lighter car, and feels it from behind the wheel. Neither are slow, but the Clio is quicker, with a more "special"-feeling engine and better brakes.

No aircon is a very common fault (the pipes are badly routed) and pricey to fix. Rear beams also need checking carefully - I had to replace mine at around 110k.

garypotter

1,506 posts

151 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Stuart said:
clonmult said:
Possibly the last good looking Peugeot?
406 Coupe post dated it, no?


A pile of dog poo!

cavebloke

641 posts

228 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Riknos said:
I never realised these things were so heavy! People slag off MX-5s as being a girl's car, and the 306 GTI-6 being a hot hatch king; thus manlier than a manly thing. But with 100kg extra and only 7 more than the 5?

Double standards much. Just saying.
I have both a 306 Rallye and a Mk1 MX5 and the Rallye wins hands down on a good B road for both pace and enjoyment (unless the sun is out). Sure the steering is electric in the MX5 and there's the fun of trying to maintain speed but the 306 has a perfect balance of grunt, excellent damping and wonderful handling to make it a serious country lane weapon.

Seems no-one has mentioned the lift off oversteer these things generate. Terrifying if you can't drive but the most fun this side of RWD if you can.

On the rust point, mine is currently in having rusty outriggers replaced. They were undersealed with a rubber/plastic coat which works brilliantly until breached. Once water gets in it gets held up against the metal permenantly and they deteriorate very quickly. Still it's a 13yr old car with >150k and I still love everything about it.


Edited by cavebloke on Friday 16th November 10:26


Edited by cavebloke on Friday 16th November 10:27

ringweekends

616 posts

254 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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PugLove.

The thing is with these cars, that people don't appreciate until they revisit a good one, is just how well they ride compared to modern metal.

There's long since been an obsession with 'hard equals fast' in terms of suspension setup when really, as a good 306 will show you, you can corner AND have superb ride comfort.

sjabrown

1,923 posts

161 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Another car on my "need to own" list. But no space till I get bored of my 205s which is unlikely to happen any time soon.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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V8 FOU said:
deadmau5 said:
I'm surprised with the statement about weight. Was 1200kg really that light in 1996?
1200kg for a sheddy old French hatch is LIGHT???? A Fiesta around that time wqas about 1000kg, a Mondeo 2.0 was 1275kg FFS, my V8Esprit is 1250kg, etc etc
I always thought the point of a French hatch was to be light, like a Clio...
Unpleasant car IMHO, having driven a few, and way too heavy....
Much, much bigger inside than a Fiesta, with more legroom in the back and a cavernous boot. 4 airbags, big comfy seats and things like air con (not that it ever works) add weight, plus the GTi6 engine itself is quite a heavy lump. It is otherwise reasonably light though!

Are you sure your Esprit is that light?...I always thought they were around the 1400kgs mark?

drumsterphil

474 posts

224 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Funny you should mention lift-off oversteer - I've just bought a '99 306 Hdi and it's a lovely thing to drive but the first time the back stepped out it was a case of "OH, that's why they have the reputation!.."

For £230 it's about the best value fun to ££'s car I've ever owned - can see me keeping it a while.

(forget the electrics though - windows, airbags, intermittent wipers and central locking all seem AWOL) - character I guess...lol

swanny71

2,860 posts

210 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Had two of these and absolutely loved every mile in them - except maybe the last 100 yards in the first (Blaze Yellow) one.........cambelt snapped pulling out of a junction and had to be pushed to safety by the driver of the truck that nearly drove into the side of me eek

ecs0set

2,471 posts

285 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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drumsterphil said:
Funny you should mention lift-off oversteer - I've just bought a '99 306 Hdi and it's a lovely thing to drive but the first time the back stepped out it was a case of "OH, that's why they have the reputation!.."
Likewise. 306 hire car + no passengers or luggage = Lots of tail wagging. Quite a shock the first time having come from VAG group cars. A good example of how FWD can be fun!

Didn't a lot of these have some dodgy looking keypad-based immobiliser? Always put me off as... well, it's a French keypad-based immobiliser! Not sure how reliable they really are though.

Adz The Rat

14,139 posts

210 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Great shed!

A couple of friends had these and they were amazing fun to throw about.

Quite a decent amount of car for £999

Whiters

364 posts

240 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Had a great test drive in one of these. Dealer was very keen for me to thoroughly enjoy the car on some good roads near the garage. Very impressive but after years of warm and hotter hatches I needed to scratch other itches. At this price for a bit of fun, seriously tempting. Bad colour though.

zygalski

7,759 posts

146 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Top shedding!
Almost makes me want to...
No it doesn't. Not quite. smile

fourwheelsteer

869 posts

253 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Nice shed but I feel any journalist who uses the phrase "rifle-bolt gearchange" should be forced to specify the rifle they are using as comparison. Some rifles in my experience have an action so unpleasant that you wouldn't want a gear lever to behave in the same way. For the rest, I think only the current Mazda MX5 and the Honda S2000 have come anywhere close to the feeling of carefully machined, precision engineering of the best rifle bolts and both cars were still a long way off.

Of course I haven't driven a Peugeot 306 GTi-6 so maybe it really is like that. But you have to wonder, how many people even know what a bolt-action rifle is? It seems like an odd thing to reference within a car review.

banksey

65 posts

173 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Excellent SOTW, a great car and I want to own another one.

rikky

36 posts

195 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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a fantastic all-round car. awesome for doing 35k a year in, embarassing pretty much anything in the twisties and also fine for throwing 2 tonnes of brick and breeze-block into the boot to lug to the tip. having gone from m3's, MB amg's and other expensive machinery, it's always been the 306 i've gone back to.. and i've had 8 306's now.. but in any colour *except* blaze gold, that is. very quick and up there with the best hatches, even 10-15 years since they were around

recently got rid of my gti6, but kept the engine which will live on in my205gti in the coming weeks smile

rmcoboy

35 posts

155 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Had a 306 XSi (similar but only 135 bhp) from nearly new in 98. Not the quickest in the world (though compared to the previous 1.1 Fiesta it was like a starship) but fantastic ride / handling balance. Always wondered how much better the GTi6 would be. Eventually traded it for a 1.8T Golf GTi which felt like I'd grown up 10 years from the hooligan Pug.

Munich

1,071 posts

197 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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not this colour, but great car.