Which "stealth" fast car ?

Which "stealth" fast car ?

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b14

1,061 posts

188 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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kiethton said:
BMW 335i
Yep. The only difference between it and a 320d on the outside is the badge and the subtle twin tailpipes (and maybe the larger brakes if you are a real geek).

EddieFelson

1,168 posts

214 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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CurvaParabolica said:
Not the most refined of machines (as I understand it) but it is thunderously quick (in a straight line) for what it is; typical of most big SRT-engined machinery. That said, it ain't stealth.

Legacy Spec B, 95 Aeros, R36s, E60 550i etc are where the stealth is at. Saying an M5 is stealth just because it has the same basic shape of other 5 series is missing the point somewhat; top of the range models always have the trinkets to make it stand out (large wheels, quad pipes etc). It's just some do subtle better than others.

Edited by CurvaParabolica on Tuesday 20th November 16:55
The R36, E60 550i are hardly stealth by your own measures.

Trevor450

1,749 posts

148 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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E500.


rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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julian64 said:
I'm sorry I just can't believe that. It looks about 4 tonne. To make that get to 60 in 4.8 seconds would require it to be dropped off a cliff.
Had one, they really are quite fierce off the line, tho top end isn't massively impressive - aerodynamics!

My entry is my current 535d, not the usual M Sport, but an SE with tiny wheels!

jbi

12,671 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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big_boz said:
julian64 said:
jbi said:


0-60 in 4.8 seconds stock
I'm sorry I just can't believe that. It looks about 4 tonne. To make that get to 60 in 4.8 seconds would require it to be dropped off a cliff.
More over...How in any description can an SRT Jeep with 22" rims in drug dealer Black be described as stealthy?
Plenty of SUV's out there with big wheels but not many that can outrun your porsche smile

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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They're 'only' 20" wink

big_boz

1,684 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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rix said:
They're 'only' 20" wink
Oh Aye, Stealthy as fk! smile

Honestly some peoples idea of stealth is rather interesting, It would appear that the last 5-10 years of making "normal" cars look fast in the S-Line, M-Sport et all ilk has resulted in an M5 with quad pipes and massive wheels and M Body kit, and a Huge Black Drug Dealer spec SUV with 20" Alloys being considered as stealthy performance cars...Mental!

jbi

12,671 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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well the stealthy aspect is it's size/bulk defying performance

It doesn't look like a 4.8 second 0-60 car smile

big_boz

1,684 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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I give up.

Op What do you think to the Brabus G-Wagon.

One Stealthy bd Im sure you will Agree



Or Perhaps this innocuous Mutherfker of a RUF Yellowbird, looks almost like a stock 911....WoooooWooooWeeeeWooooWooooo


jbi

12,671 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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The SUV yes

the porsche... no

big_boz

1,684 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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jbi said:
The SUV yes

the porsche... no
Is this Serious?

jbi

12,671 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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big_boz said:
jbi said:
The SUV yes

the porsche... no
Is this Serious?
we are talking about performance here arn't we?

Porsche looks fast... G-wagen does not

DubZeus

1,401 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Rover 75 V8

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

168 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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R36 estate?


big_boz

1,684 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Ah, It would appear that you have miss-read the original post which is about stealthy performance cars.

Oxford English Dictionary said:
Definition of stealthy
adjective (stealthier, stealthiest)
behaving or done in a cautious and surreptitious manner, so as not to be seen or heard:
Rolling in a Massive black G-wagon, albeit a very fast one, is not stealthy. A massive off-roader with huge wheels and massive amount of road presence is in no way stealthy, regardless of its performance. What you are implying is that because you wouldn't normally expect a massive off-roader to be quick that it is therefore stealthy, which clearly it is not.

By your logic a yellobird is stealthy in your eyes as you wouldn't expect an 80's 911 to be able to smash 200MPH, but it can and it looks quite similar to a normal 80's 911.


jbi

12,671 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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big_boz said:
Rolling in a Massive black G-wagon, albeit a very fast one, is not stealthy. A massive off-roader with huge wheels and massive amount of road presence is in no way stealthy, regardless of its performance. What you are implying is that because you wouldn't normally expect a massive off-roader to be quick that it is therefore stealthy, which clearly it is not.

By your logic a yellobird is stealthy in your eyes as you wouldn't expect an 80's 911 to be able to smash 200MPH, but it can and it looks quite similar to a normal 80's 911.
and by your logic the stealthiest thing on the road would be a motorcycle as they have no road presence at all...

To me stealth means, unexpected

FlauM

380 posts

153 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Mazda 3 MPS non-aero 2007 smile

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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RoadToNowhere said:
troc said:
Audi S4. Quite often less showy (especially debadged) than the run of the mill S-line versions but goes like stink smile
Precisely why I have one! v8 / S4 badges coming off at the weekend, too...
yes

And stick a "2.0TDI" badge on it. biggrin

shakindog

489 posts

150 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Something like the accord type r looks like saloon family car with a spoiler bolted on. Gives folk a shock tho :-)

big_boz

1,684 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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jbi said:
big_boz said:
Rolling in a Massive black G-wagon, albeit a very fast one, is not stealthy. A massive off-roader with huge wheels and massive amount of road presence is in no way stealthy, regardless of its performance. What you are implying is that because you wouldn't normally expect a massive off-roader to be quick that it is therefore stealthy, which clearly it is not.

By your logic a yellobird is stealthy in your eyes as you wouldn't expect an 80's 911 to be able to smash 200MPH, but it can and it looks quite similar to a normal 80's 911.
and by your logic the stealthiest thing on the road would be a motorcycle as they have no road presence at all...

To me stealth means, unexpected
No clearly you have failed to read my post, it is not my logic, it is the actual Oxford English dictionary definition of the word. If to you "stealth means, unexpected", this just indicates that you have not fully grasped and understood the meaning of the word.

Just to make this a little easier for you to understand, for something to be stealthy it must "behave in a cautious and surreptitious manner, so as not to be seen or heard", or in simpler terms be innocuous. Significant Road presence is just one thing that immediately means that something can not, by definition, be stealthy. Equally a motorbike is not necessarilly stealthy just because it is "small", is a buell stealthy? The answer here is obviously no as you can hear it from about 3 miles away.

What you are eluding to is something that has "surprising" performance, such that the layperson would not expect something to have a high level of performance, this is not stealth this is surprise, I thought I had made this fairly obvious, perhaps I wasn't clear, I hope this clarifies the point I was trying to make.