Which "stealth" fast car ?

Which "stealth" fast car ?

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Captainawesome

1,817 posts

163 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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Wills2 said:
Captainawesome said:
Looks pretty stealthy to me considering what it's kicking out. I would never expect it to be as quick as I'm sure it is.

I remember pulling up at a set of lights and a really knackered looking corsa on steel wheels pull up next to me with a couple of young lads in it grinning. As soon as they revved it and it shook and the dump valve went pssssht I realised why they were grinning. Took a few seconds to get going but when it did it took off like a stabbed rat (I had a slightly modified ST24 at the time).
I remember an old corsa matching me through 3rd and into 4th on the M1 near Sheffield one time when I was in my old 911 (which was good for nearly 190mph) it did make me chuckle, but he was a bit serious about the whole thing.
I thought it was brilliant, has made me hanker for a proper sleeper ever since.

driverrob

4,689 posts

203 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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skyrover said:
mdm1uk said:
What model is the jeep and engine
Grand Cherokee SRT8

6.1 L Hemi V8, 425 hp (317 kW), 425 lb·ft (576 N·m)
That's the point. There are so few of them most people haven't heard of them, let alone seen one. Visually, it's pretty similar to every other Jeep of the same year.

The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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mrf said:
I know someone with a 1.9 150 diesel Vectra thats mapped to 210BHP....and its rapid....seriously rapid
1400kg and 210bhp makes it a bit slower than the not seriously rapid Fiesta ST

Mr E

21,618 posts

259 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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DLovett said:


Mercedes E500 Estate. Only available in LHD as far as I can tell.

408 HP, 600 NM from a twin-turbo V8. 0-60 in 5'ish seconds.
I have a rhd E500 estate (pre-facelift). No turbos, 5.5 litres, 388bhp with similar torque. Sub six seconds to 60 and limited to 155.

It's indistinguishable from an E220.

They don't make them (at least in the uk) like that anymore.

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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mrf said:
Also have a relation with a mid 90s astra with a 2.5 V6 (probably from a Vectra) in it.....he goes through tyres like no ones business....
I have an SL55 AMG with 550bhp and a 911 turbo, neither go through tyres "like no ones business". At a guess, he probably drives like a prat spinning his wheels everywhere.

Some of these suggestions are poor! A bog standard low end rep car or cold hatch with a somewhat more powerful than standard engine does not make a stealthy fast car!

As mentioned on this thread numerous times, something like an E55 AMG is stealth. It looks like an E350 CDI sports bar the two extra exhausts, and believe me, nobody knows what the hell they are.

I surprised the hell out of a couple of Ferraris, Porsches and numerous scoobies, evos etc. in my old car, especially whilst the V8 Kompressor badges were removed.

That is a sleeper! Not an astra with a 2.5 V6 that's probably no quicker than a modern hot hatch.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Anyone mentioned the S40 T4 yet? many of these produced a fair bit more than the Volvo claimed 200bhp as standard.


0-60 in 6.7 seconds, 150mph - Looks near enough standard apart from the small spoiler and the massive oval exhaust - even the alloys look like wheel trims.

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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morgrp said:
Anyone mentioned the S40 T4 yet? many of these produced a fair bit more than the Volvo claimed 200bhp as standard.


0-60 in 6.7 seconds, 150mph - Looks near enough standard apart from the small spoiler and the massive oval exhaust - even the alloys look like wheel trims.
I was speaking to a bloke a little while ago who had one of these in estate form. I remarked to him that you don't see many of them around, it transpired he'd bought it from auction. It used to belong to Lothian and Borders police. He said it was a cracking car. I recall a PH'er having a nice blue saloon one that he reckoned would challenge a WRX in a straight line.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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morgrp said:
Anyone mentioned the S40 T4 yet? many of these produced a fair bit more than the Volvo claimed 200bhp as standard.


0-60 in 6.7 seconds, 150mph - Looks near enough standard apart from the small spoiler and the massive oval exhaust - even the alloys look like wheel trims.
Much depends on what type of car user; their values and viewpoint.

In my experience, that's one of the few actual stealth cars mentioned on this thread.

The way many car consumers see things, as opposed to car the enthusiasts viewpoint, ALL BMWs, AUDIs, Mercedes and Diesels are fast so few if any of those will be considered stealth. Rightly or wrongly.

There again another well known fact. All Rovers are slow and are driven by the aged. One or two contributors on this "stealth" thread have reinforced this widespread myth. With that in mind when I deploy the abilities of this good old boy, I never tire of seeing the look of surprise on the faces of those who believe they are driving 'superior' means of getting about because of the badge. Like the 330ci driver who pulled up alongside me one time and asked what I had done to the car that it should go so well. I suspect he did not believe me when I told him it was a bog standard 620ti and simply well maintained.



The car usually has plain silver standard ti six spoke alloy wheels in silver but in winter, on go these white wheels with Rainsports.

Now in my view, that's a stealth car.

Stealthy in much the same way as the mobile plod in a plain clothes Bee-em who stopped me in the small hours stating "You were a bit brisk there Sir" .... that has happened to me on more than one occasion. A brisk Rover must be up to no good ... or maybe they wanted someone to talk to in the small hours and tick a box on their worksheets. Yeah, that's it ... wink

There again, maybe I have misunderstood and failed miserably to grasp this stealth thing .. hehe



MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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tali1 said:
Baryonyx said:
sc4589 said:
One further- the 800 in champagne gold with the same engine!
The Rover 800's were good cars. Was it the 820ti the police used to use?
No 820ti exists -it was either Vitesse (mk2)or 820 Turbo(mk1) - but Police used mainly v6 827s and standard no turbo 820 140bhp
I believe in some export markets the 820 Turbo carried the "820ti" badge.

Yes, ten odd years ago I had a Vitesse Sport ( 820 turbo ) and it had the Legend RECARO on both front seats. The design and materials used looks very similar/identical to the seats in my current DD Rover 620ti which do not have the legend RECARO in bright red on them. These cars have the Rover T-Series in turbocharged form.

There were about 500 "Tickford" Rover 800s made IIRC. These cars had a Turbocharged M-Series engine.

p1tse

1,375 posts

192 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Something like a BMW 335d or 535d SE debaged with a 18d badge lol

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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mike325112 said:
C.A.R. said:
LED fairy lights
hehe
I like this. Fairy Lights will be my new name for them.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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schmalex said:
ikarl said:
CLK 55 AMG
That. Or a CLK 500. 99% of the performance, but looks no different from a 200 Kompressor. My old one was c. 350bhp and pulled to 62 in 5.5 seconds or something silly like that. However, it was the mid range from 30 - 1XX that was mind blowing. It just pulled like a train right the way through the gearbox with no let up whatsoever. It was certainly a lot quicker than the Audi I replaced it with.

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 20th November 21:56
That is a good shout. The 500 models are surprisingly fast. As you say, with no let up anywhere, just constant shove. De-badge and enjoy.

Wills2

22,839 posts

175 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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tali1 said:
Wills2 said:
crazy about cars said:
Blimey! 4.5s in estate form that's indeed stealth and fast. That's almost as quick as my M3. Is that an XDrive too?

Wills2 said:
I nominate this: I timed it at 4.5 to 60 but feels so utterly boring doing it not only is it stealth to the travelling public but the driver as well!

It's quicker than my old m3 best I got from that was 5.3 (too much wheel spin in launch control) yes xdrive hence the good 0-60.

Not a patch on the M3 though in terms of drama/sense of occasion and generally being great to drive.
Dunno how boring that can be. My brother has a 330d M sport 51 reg, 200k on clock -loads of thump and a fantastic drive.
I guess it's designed to be boring; quiet/comfy/isolated from the road/no steering feel/huge reserves of grip etc....if you want an exciting car you don't buy a diesel 3 series do you?

It's those traits that make it a great Q car as you get an iron fist in a beige cotton glove, even the driver doesn't realise how quick it is.

I'm not knocking it BTW it's great at what it does.


GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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My 335i is pretty stealthy if I were to debadge it. Only the twin exhausts give it away. I've seen them timed to 60mph in 4.8 seconds.

bozzy101

506 posts

139 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Gary C

12,446 posts

179 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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mrf said:
The Vambo said:
1400kg and 210bhp makes it a bit slower than the not seriously rapid Fiesta ST
Except its also kicking out between 450-500nm of torque....Took on a corsa VXR....bloke couldn't shake matey off...and he was wasn't exactly driving slow..., was quite shocked when he was told it was a 1.9 diesel....

Could be above 220 now as its running straight through pipes as well as a few other trick bits...
Peak crank torque figures are fairly meaningless

OllieC

3,816 posts

214 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Gary C said:
mrf said:
The Vambo said:
1400kg and 210bhp makes it a bit slower than the not seriously rapid Fiesta ST
Except its also kicking out between 450-500nm of torque....Took on a corsa VXR....bloke couldn't shake matey off...and he was wasn't exactly driving slow..., was quite shocked when he was told it was a 1.9 diesel....

Could be above 220 now as its running straight through pipes as well as a few other trick bits...
Peak crank torque figures are fairly meaningless
unless you cant operate a gearbox at least

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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morgrp said:
Anyone mentioned the S40 T4 yet? many of these produced a fair bit more than the Volvo claimed 200bhp as standard.


0-60 in 6.7 seconds, 150mph - Looks near enough standard apart from the small spoiler and the massive oval exhaust - even the alloys look like wheel trims.


They're hilarious. I've put 30K on mine since I bought it and it has been great. Easy to get 32+mpg if you take it easy and also puts quite a few modern cars to the sword if you put your foot down. Decent front tyres are a must as is keeping the suspension in semi decent shape, it's easy enough as parts are dirt cheap. My shed has been great so far. Anonymous, quick(ish), leather and a bit quirky.

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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All this Volvo talk reminded me about the Volvo S60R... was really keen on this car few years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gStrGOpNkmQ

ArsE92

21,013 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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GroundEffect said:
My 335i is pretty stealthy if I were to debadge it. Only the twin exhausts give it away. I've seen them timed to 60mph in 4.8 seconds.
thumbup ~360bhp - 0-60 <5s

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Edited by ArsE92 on Wednesday 3rd September 20:04