RE: Clocking loophole closing
Discussion
Fastpedeller said:
Suit came to greet me and was all smiles, asked if I had any questions...... my cue to say " Can you tell me if this vehicle has been involved in a major collision?" His response was to say nothing and turn quickly on his heals and head in the direction of his smart office!
Nice one 
I once looked at a Clio that had a slight miss-alignment on the front wing/bumper. I asked the trader if it had ever been in an accident ? "No, I have known this car from new, been looked after, never bumped", I opened the bonnet and pointed to the cracked plastic parts down to the grill and the bumper, he walked off without another word.
Drove past 30 minutes later to see the trader & two others taking the bumper off !
va1o said:
KevinH80 said:
Not trolling here, and registered a new ID to protect me
Whenever I see a clocking thread I do laugh. All clockers are evil yet no one will admit to doing it.
I've clocked one car, giving it a haircut of 50,000. Done simply because it was up on miles and it would be hard to shift, so a quick haircut and it sold in a week.
The other car that was 'adjusted' was done so on an annual basis, after the MOT I would simply 'turn off' the speedo after clocking up 7,000 miles. The newer cars are harder to do but my advice on buying is simple.
If it has a service history then look for receipts as well as the stamps. Call the garages to confirm this work was done (I know someone who bought a 5 series with a FBMWSH. Later it went to a dealer for a service only for them to receive a call informing them of over a thoushand pounds worth of work needed as not serviced for at least 50,000 miles).
Look at the condition of the car, does it tally with the mileage?
GTFO.Whenever I see a clocking thread I do laugh. All clockers are evil yet no one will admit to doing it.
I've clocked one car, giving it a haircut of 50,000. Done simply because it was up on miles and it would be hard to shift, so a quick haircut and it sold in a week.
The other car that was 'adjusted' was done so on an annual basis, after the MOT I would simply 'turn off' the speedo after clocking up 7,000 miles. The newer cars are harder to do but my advice on buying is simple.
If it has a service history then look for receipts as well as the stamps. Call the garages to confirm this work was done (I know someone who bought a 5 series with a FBMWSH. Later it went to a dealer for a service only for them to receive a call informing them of over a thoushand pounds worth of work needed as not serviced for at least 50,000 miles).
Look at the condition of the car, does it tally with the mileage?
Let me check your old MOT's, oh, that looks a bit awry.
Oh you've clocked it.
Then what we need is to be able to tell the likes of Autotrader or PH, or whoever else host adverts, to go check cars that are highlighted and if they are indeed clocked then ban the sellers from their sites.
Buyer education is the key. Motivate them to help themselves, rather than always trying to protect them from themselves!
Dave
HairbearTE said:
Paranoia? Personally I can't see it going any other way. For future generations cars will be a means of transport only in the UK, there will be little pleasure to gained from driving them.
Get the best/fastest/car of your dreams that you can afford right now and rag the absolute s
t out of it on the public roads while you still can is my advice.
Yep, and it's a minority that ruin it for everyone.Get the best/fastest/car of your dreams that you can afford right now and rag the absolute s
t out of it on the public roads while you still can is my advice. This is another example where Pistonheads could do something. Ie, if they get a sniff of a clocked car on their classifieds, go check it out. If they find it's clocked, ban the user, name and shame etc...
If the community of buyers and advertiser promoters work together to educate buyers and stamp out clockers from having adverts on their sites then we fix the problem ourselves...
When people fix things themselves it's better than government doing it for us and doing it badly.
Something where PH could take the lead instead of sitting all day coming up with crappy sensationalist headlines.
Dave
I just never trust mileometers, they are only part of the equation, the old mots, bills, condition, the seller, the circumstances etc etc, usually you can gather enough info to make an educated decision as to the milage validity, if its a very clean, one owner car with stacks of bills and a nice owner then it is 99.99 certain top be correct, if it is dodgy trader who calls you mate, doesnt have a land line or premises and is selling a very shiny eight year old 320D with 45,000 on then it will have been clocked, probably three times, if the car is in good order and the right price, allowing for the ficticious mileage then dotn rule it out.
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Buyer education is the key. Motivate them to help themselves, rather than always trying to protect them from themselves!
Absolutely agree........ A friend of ours (a real novice) was looking for a car, and I gave her some pointers re overspray etc as signs of previous repairs. A week later we were with her when she wanted to look at some on a forecourt - Vendors face was a picture when she said after looking at a few " have you any that haven't been bashed and resprayed badly?"
Quick learner that one!
Buyer education is the key. Motivate them to help themselves, rather than always trying to protect them from themselves!
Absolutely agree........ A friend of ours (a real novice) was looking for a car, and I gave her some pointers re overspray etc as signs of previous repairs. A week later we were with her when she wanted to look at some on a forecourt - Vendors face was a picture when she said after looking at a few " have you any that haven't been bashed and resprayed badly?"
Quick learner that one!Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but the PH search facility is a wonderful thing.
I bought a used car for 'er indoors from a main dealer a few weeks ago. The mileage is 43600 and has the receipts to back this up. However, I was just sorting some paperwork out and on the MOT the tester has recorded the mileage as 53600. I assuming he didn't know his fours from his fives, so how do I get this corrected. My wife only does low mileages, so it won't be at 53000m in 12 months time and will therefore have a mileage discrepancy in the future when we come to sell it. Can the tester correct his entry following a phone call (I just know it's not going to be that easy)
I bought a used car for 'er indoors from a main dealer a few weeks ago. The mileage is 43600 and has the receipts to back this up. However, I was just sorting some paperwork out and on the MOT the tester has recorded the mileage as 53600. I assuming he didn't know his fours from his fives, so how do I get this corrected. My wife only does low mileages, so it won't be at 53000m in 12 months time and will therefore have a mileage discrepancy in the future when we come to sell it. Can the tester correct his entry following a phone call (I just know it's not going to be that easy)
Edited by Elroy Blue on Saturday 6th April 15:47
I would have thought that as BIB you would know the answer !! 
I have a similar problem in that My import records in km's yet the young numpty who mot'ed it, placed the odo recording in miles..
Not really bothered, as My insurance company know the truth !!...
Get it independenly inspected if you are really that worried !!...
I have a similar problem in that My import records in km's yet the young numpty who mot'ed it, placed the odo recording in miles..
Not really bothered, as My insurance company know the truth !!...
Get it independenly inspected if you are really that worried !!...
I may be BiB, but I don't have an encyclopaedic knowledge of every procedure that relates to other agencies. Having searched the net, this problem would appear to be pretty common. Seems I have to get the car inspected by VOSA and 'hope' they agree to change their records. I should bets on the dealer saying 'it won't matter' when I ring them on Monday.
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