RE: 650hp Lexus breaks cover
Discussion
mr2j said:
When I look at this magnificent piece of hyper-saloonery, I am definitely not inclined to think it is designed to whet the appetite of your average Germanophile.
Are you saying the Japanese shouldn't bother providing an alternative? Wouldn't the world be a boring place if your only choice of executive/performance saloon or limo was a BMW or a Mercedes? Some of us like the Japanese alternatives and are fed up of the snooty BMW driver, supremely arrogant in his choice to fritter away his money by owning an adequate but expensive car just because of the badge.
Very well saidAre you saying the Japanese shouldn't bother providing an alternative? Wouldn't the world be a boring place if your only choice of executive/performance saloon or limo was a BMW or a Mercedes? Some of us like the Japanese alternatives and are fed up of the snooty BMW driver, supremely arrogant in his choice to fritter away his money by owning an adequate but expensive car just because of the badge.
antspants said:
Those front tyres must be awesome at water displacement, I've never seen a car that required guttering down the sides before.
But I have a feeling the light weight benefits of carbon fibre guttering are going to be somewhat negated by the 10 litres of water sloshing about in them.
Be ok if you only take it out in light rain...But I have a feeling the light weight benefits of carbon fibre guttering are going to be somewhat negated by the 10 litres of water sloshing about in them.
Errr...BoomBoom
Spec i love, boy racer evo w
k totally ruins it for me. This winged horse of chav tat makes a gtr look understated.
Why is the c63 amg so cool? It's brutal but not bling (as opposed o the black version, which looks totally charver).
I swear fast barging has been a slippery slope since it peaked with the rs2...
k totally ruins it for me. This winged horse of chav tat makes a gtr look understated.Why is the c63 amg so cool? It's brutal but not bling (as opposed o the black version, which looks totally charver).
I swear fast barging has been a slippery slope since it peaked with the rs2...
Mothir Foq!
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It doesn't offend me but neither does it make me want it (the engine looks good on paper though). Then again, I'm not the LS demographic, let alone in the mark for a luxury saloon in the >£80k bracket...
Personal taste, but I think they could sell something like this (i.e. a bigger ISF) with an option for the standard body and more discreet wheels. That said, I'm not sure that it's really any more "out there" than some of the premium eurothrash offerings (Brabus, Hamann etc.) but then these aren't in house...
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It doesn't offend me but neither does it make me want it (the engine looks good on paper though). Then again, I'm not the LS demographic, let alone in the mark for a luxury saloon in the >£80k bracket...
Personal taste, but I think they could sell something like this (i.e. a bigger ISF) with an option for the standard body and more discreet wheels. That said, I'm not sure that it's really any more "out there" than some of the premium eurothrash offerings (Brabus, Hamann etc.) but then these aren't in house...
Remember what Lexus stands for - Luxury Export to US . The yanks will love this - it's proper gangster . Personally I love it . Who gives a toss about badge/branding. Lexus make a superb car. This thing will be properly built , better than any BMW/Merc offering . When you get passed by one of these blowing your doors completely off your AMG/ M BMW you'll reconsider. To think of the Lexus ethos being a luxury brand , the fact they've built this is simply outrageous in an age now of everything being eco/watered down rubbish. Lexus - I applaud you !
The very definition of oxymoronic - Oxford English Dictionary should use it in their next revised edition.
Be so much easier to explain than using words!
Be interested in seeing the production version if this test mule gets given the green light, given the new corporate face across the range of models now.
I think these photos have been put out deliberately to generate the noise seen in the above comments, so well done Lexus marketing dept.
Doubtful that the production version will look as outlandish, but who knows?
Be so much easier to explain than using words!
Be interested in seeing the production version if this test mule gets given the green light, given the new corporate face across the range of models now.
I think these photos have been put out deliberately to generate the noise seen in the above comments, so well done Lexus marketing dept.
Doubtful that the production version will look as outlandish, but who knows?
It did make me go on to the Lexus classifieds... 
Too much styling, would be more attractive with a subtle look. As someone else stated, it might just be a "look what we can do" exercise.
I assume Lexus engines are bulletproof, then why shouldn't they push out more hp from their engines? American and Middle-Eastern markets love crazy hp, so there probably is a small market niche for this.
Too much styling, would be more attractive with a subtle look. As someone else stated, it might just be a "look what we can do" exercise.
I assume Lexus engines are bulletproof, then why shouldn't they push out more hp from their engines? American and Middle-Eastern markets love crazy hp, so there probably is a small market niche for this.
Isn't it just great to see more of the usual badge snob, tuning is for chavs comments when something like this comes along. 
This IS is a cracking bonkers machine that looks bloody good. I'm pretty sure the venting/scoops in the bonnet are there for more than just looks, and the Max Power comparisons are so old and unintelligent it beggars belief they're still being used.
I dare say this is probably as well as or better bolted together in and out, and giving more bang per buck than the usual German offerings that are too busy wanting to part you from as much of your hard earned as possible just because of 'The badge' and a few extra ponies.
I'd rather have this Lexus over any BMW, Merc, or Audi come to that.
This IS is a cracking bonkers machine that looks bloody good. I'm pretty sure the venting/scoops in the bonnet are there for more than just looks, and the Max Power comparisons are so old and unintelligent it beggars belief they're still being used.
I dare say this is probably as well as or better bolted together in and out, and giving more bang per buck than the usual German offerings that are too busy wanting to part you from as much of your hard earned as possible just because of 'The badge' and a few extra ponies.
I'd rather have this Lexus over any BMW, Merc, or Audi come to that.
Why are people rattling on about badge snobbery? Look at this thing. You could put any badge you want on it, it would still be more kahn than class.
The oriental manufacturers do this all the time - i'd love a scooby, except they look so halfords. If they made a wrx without all the max power bits, I'd be driving one now. Instead, i'm running an rs4 because the recent m3 is too in your face to be accepted at work.
The oriental manufacturers do this all the time - i'd love a scooby, except they look so halfords. If they made a wrx without all the max power bits, I'd be driving one now. Instead, i'm running an rs4 because the recent m3 is too in your face to be accepted at work.
Garlick said:
Maybe I'm just getting old and maybe (as JAYB suggests) this Lexus is an attempt to show what they can do, but I just prefer fast limos with a pinch of discretion
This looks great IMO, just enough to let you know it's got some punch
Granted I won't be in the market for either until they are about 20 years old, but the Merc looks woefully boring in comparison. And If the AMGs are built anything like the vanilla w221s it'll be woefully disappointing interior/comfort/driver interface wise as well. This looks great IMO, just enough to let you know it's got some punch
I had 20 minutes in a w221 a while back, being the first Benz I've driven let alone the first S Class I was expecting something special... Easily the most disappointing car I've ever driven. The crap stalk mounted gear selector was enough to make me want to get a gallon of petrol and some matches for it alone.
Some Gump said:
Why are people rattling on about badge snobbery? Look at this thing. You could put any badge you want on it, it would still be more kahn than class.
The oriental manufacturers do this all the time - i'd love a scooby, except they look so halfords. If they made a wrx without all the max power bits, I'd be driving one now. Instead, i'm running an rs4 because the recent m3 is too in your face to be accepted at work.
I feel sadness at that, The oriental manufacturers do this all the time - i'd love a scooby, except they look so halfords. If they made a wrx without all the max power bits, I'd be driving one now. Instead, i'm running an rs4 because the recent m3 is too in your face to be accepted at work.
sadness and despair how youre being limited to such monotony in order to 'impress' strangers on the basis of someone elses opinions.
This is the main problem of the UK 'fashion clone' attitude in a nutshell.
An incredible lack of knowledge combined with a comically aimless pomposity.
We are currently enduring the worst period of car banality in history, cars like this are a breath of fresh air in a sea of boring tedium, point in case are cars like Audi and BMW.
B O R I N G on every level.
The trouble is the clones dont even know what they are looking at let alone if its good or quality.
Instead their 'choice' is guided by a magazine rating.
And because they all only read 1 magazine they all end up in the same car.
When will it end?
Edited by Pistonwot on Sunday 2nd December 13:48
ScoobieWRX said:
"the Max Power comparisons are so old and unintelligent it beggars belief they're still being used"
This ilk are comedy gold.
Talk about advertising your own ignorance, they obviously couldnt even tell a tuned car from a stock car unless a magazine has told them what to think.
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