RE: PH Blog: the spirit of TVR
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Give the guy a break! He's saying that the drive is a bit raw - unexpected from a Merc but what you'd definitely get from a TVR. I think that's worth saying (even though Dan had already opined that).Personally it does change the way I look at the Merc - it is clearly not the sophisticated boulevardier that it's sister cars are, and a comparison to the reddest-blooded cars in recent memory is a good way of showing this.
Of course it's not exactly the same... that's obvious
Of course it's not exactly the same... that's obvious
Twincam16 said:
Surely the closest thing you can get to a new TVR is David Gerald's new CWR Titan. Deliberately designed to follow on from TVR (he would have bought the rights to the name had Smolensky kept hold of it with the intention of slapping it on wind turbines), it features TVR-derived chassis and suspension, it looks like a TVR (think a cross between a Grantura and a V8S), it has a huge 6.2-litre Chevrolet V8 and it costs £60k, which sounds like a lot but is realistically what you'd pay for a TVR these days were they still going.
He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
i have totally missed these somehow ... AWESOME! He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
has PH been hacked by LOLZSEC?? lol
Monsterlime said:
Twincam16 said:
Surely the closest thing you can get to a new TVR is David Gerald's new CWR Titan. Deliberately designed to follow on from TVR (he would have bought the rights to the name had Smolensky kept hold of it with the intention of slapping it on wind turbines), it features TVR-derived chassis and suspension, it looks like a TVR (think a cross between a Grantura and a V8S), it has a huge 6.2-litre Chevrolet V8 and it costs £60k, which sounds like a lot but is realistically what you'd pay for a TVR these days were they still going.
He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
Who cares about the SLS? I want this!He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
300bhp/ton said:
Monsterlime said:
Twincam16 said:
Surely the closest thing you can get to a new TVR is David Gerald's new CWR Titan. Deliberately designed to follow on from TVR (he would have bought the rights to the name had Smolensky kept hold of it with the intention of slapping it on wind turbines), it features TVR-derived chassis and suspension, it looks like a TVR (think a cross between a Grantura and a V8S), it has a huge 6.2-litre Chevrolet V8 and it costs £60k, which sounds like a lot but is realistically what you'd pay for a TVR these days were they still going.
He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
Who cares about the SLS? I want this!He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
It's no pie-in-the-sky venture either. Classic World Racing and David Gerald TVR have the equipment to build spare parts for all manner of existing TVRs, and track-prepare them too, so to all intents and purposes they could probably build you a 'new' TVR out of spares anyway. This is just the logical progression from their current range of services.
Edited by Twincam16 on Monday 10th December 14:33
My first thought on driving the regular SLS was 'this feels like an upmarket TVR'. 
So I'm with you on the driving experience. But I think the relatively affordable price tag (certainly in the Griff/Chim heyday) and the slightly rough edges were a big part of TVR's character. There was something of the local boy done good about a £30,000 Chimaera that you just don't get with an SLS.
So I'm with you on the driving experience. But I think the relatively affordable price tag (certainly in the Griff/Chim heyday) and the slightly rough edges were a big part of TVR's character. There was something of the local boy done good about a £30,000 Chimaera that you just don't get with an SLS.
Tib said:
I've always bought into the idea that part of TVR ownership was the idea that they are in fact crap. They're unreliable, in certain areas poorly finished and they have more quirks than Bjork.
This all added up to the fact that on the very rare occasion on the right road at the right time everything just fell into place and you appreciated it. More soulful than any 3 pointed star machine.
Admittedly mind, I've never owned a TVR, so... Correct me at will.
You should stop relying on 'bloke down the pub' and Clarkson for your opinionsThis all added up to the fact that on the very rare occasion on the right road at the right time everything just fell into place and you appreciated it. More soulful than any 3 pointed star machine.
Admittedly mind, I've never owned a TVR, so... Correct me at will.
Edited by darkmark07 on Monday 10th December 14:40
TVR's offered exciting looks with great soundtrack and performance. Funky interiors, and raw driving experience at price point that wasn't too far out of the reach of the someone doing ok for themselves... They had lots of character (meaning faults and all the cars development was done by the initial customers!) They came from a shed in blackpool and were very unsophisticated things in reality... N/A engines, Manual gearboxes, no Driving aids, no toys. Take the body off one and you see exactly what they are... nicely presented factory built kit cars!! NOT slagging them at all. I LOVE THEM
The SLS is a modern junior supercar, built by a massive company. Its super sosphicated in its body construction, its slick, reliable, filled with electronics and toys and has modern dual clutch box.... and is way out of the reach of the regular man on the street.
Sorry... but I couldn't agree with this article any less. I've driven lots of TVR's and the original SLS. Not driven the Roadster I admit.
The SLS is a modern junior supercar, built by a massive company. Its super sosphicated in its body construction, its slick, reliable, filled with electronics and toys and has modern dual clutch box.... and is way out of the reach of the regular man on the street.
Sorry... but I couldn't agree with this article any less. I've driven lots of TVR's and the original SLS. Not driven the Roadster I admit.
Alex, welcome to planet earth, here we have a wide array of things that are superficially similar and some that are not.
For example, Just as TVRs and Mercedes are in some senses similar (both having wheels for example), I had an egg for breakfast that looked a bit like a 1970s TV detective Kojack, but it actually wasn't Tele Savalis, an American actor from a different part of planet earth, it was actually a sterile chicken embryo.
Similarly it has been remarked that from certain angles my genitals look a bit like Brian May (obviously before he went grey), but in fact they are more unalike (my genitals cannot play the guitar and do not have a PhD in Astrophsyics for example) than they are alike.
For example, Just as TVRs and Mercedes are in some senses similar (both having wheels for example), I had an egg for breakfast that looked a bit like a 1970s TV detective Kojack, but it actually wasn't Tele Savalis, an American actor from a different part of planet earth, it was actually a sterile chicken embryo.
Similarly it has been remarked that from certain angles my genitals look a bit like Brian May (obviously before he went grey), but in fact they are more unalike (my genitals cannot play the guitar and do not have a PhD in Astrophsyics for example) than they are alike.
that titan looks worthy of TVR status to me, cant see how a TVR and SLS AMG can be compared really there opposite ends of the spectrum but what about an MX5 with an ls conversion? the conversion is becoming more common, plus it fits the TVR bill as well, light weight car with a huge engine upfront and massive noise coming from the back!!
Twincam16 said:
Surely the closest thing you can get to a new TVR is David Gerald's new CWR Titan. Deliberately designed to follow on from TVR (he would have bought the rights to the name had Smolensky kept hold of it with the intention of slapping it on wind turbines), it features TVR-derived chassis and suspension, it looks like a TVR (think a cross between a Grantura and a V8S), it has a huge 6.2-litre Chevrolet V8 and it costs £60k, which sounds like a lot but is realistically what you'd pay for a TVR these days were they still going.
He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
That looks absolutely sensational..feature please?!..He is building an initial run of six next year, then they'll be build-to-order after that. He's keeping production capacity deliberately small in order to avoid running into the problems so many low-volume car producers do - ie overambition and overcapacity.
I like it:
Also - 'Titan' - well it's a whole lot more 'TVR'-sounding than 'SLS AMG'.
http://www.cwrcars.com/showroom/index.php/news
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