RE: New 380hp Radical coupe revealed

RE: New 380hp Radical coupe revealed

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frogy6

16 posts

145 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Mastodon2 said:
Didn't the Hayabusa derived engine require quite frequent rebuilds? Its not exactly in a relaxed state of tune...
Bit mad a V8 hayabusa in a mild tune should need no more servicing than the inline 4.

And the bored and stroked version is still only mildly tuned. Can't see it myself

Look at jack frost's turbo ones

http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/

Inline 4 turbo up to 770 hp

V8 to 1000 hp at only 90 kg.


The stage of tune radical have them at shouldn't need such short service intervals

BertBert

19,059 posts

211 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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frogy6 said:
Bit mad a V8 hayabusa in a mild tune should need no more servicing than the inline 4.

And the bored and stroked version is still only mildly tuned. Can't see it myself

Look at jack frost's turbo ones

http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/

Inline 4 turbo up to 770 hp

V8 to 1000 hp at only 90 kg.


The stage of tune radical have them at shouldn't need such short service intervals
Quick, ring Uncle Ted up, he'll be delighted that he's been wrong all these years rolleyes

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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frogy6 said:
Mastodon2 said:
Didn't the Hayabusa derived engine require quite frequent rebuilds? Its not exactly in a relaxed state of tune...
Bit mad a V8 hayabusa in a mild tune should need no more servicing than the inline 4.

And the bored and stroked version is still only mildly tuned. Can't see it myself
They mention looking to obtain Euro type approval which means meeting emission regulations, that process probably isn't easy or cheap to do with a completely bespoke V8 built from a couple of Busa top ends.

BertBert

19,059 posts

211 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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LocoBlade said:
They mention looking to obtain Euro type approval which means meeting emission regulations, that process probably isn't easy or cheap to do with a completely bespoke V8 built from a couple of Busa top ends.
and having done one already, they know how to do it.
Bert

993RSGT3

84 posts

174 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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If you look at the website, it is available with the V8 from the SR8 - 480bhp. The standard V6 is available in several states of tune, as is the car's configuration (road, track and race I think).

The looks are derived from the aerodynamic requirements, but differ from an LMP1, as those are only nominally 2 seaters (really wouldn't want to sit in the 2nd seat even when it's not moving), hence the slightly odd cockpit/roofline.

http://www.radicalsportscars.com/uk/showroom/radic...

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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frogy6 said:
Bit mad a V8 hayabusa in a mild tune should need no more servicing than the inline 4.

And the bored and stroked version is still only mildly tuned. Can't see it myself


The stage of tune radical have them at shouldn't need such short service intervals
And yet, Radical still recommend rebuilds every 30/40 hours. Even for the mega rich, that would become tiresome I think.

BusaMK

389 posts

149 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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You forget that's 30/40 hours of race use, much more than what a lot of race engines can take.

TP321

1,479 posts

198 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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That looks horrible, cheap and very plastic...

boxerTen

501 posts

204 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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frogy6 said:
Can someone tell me what was wrong with the hayabusa engine? Why the move away.

Standard 200 hp

Turbocharged, reliable up to 5-600 hp

Graft it as a v8 400 hp out of 2.6

V8 turbo you could have lightweight engine with over 1000 hp
Why the move away? 200 bhp is not enough, and given the free choice Radical has, a naturally aspirated engine will always be preferred over a turbocharged one. Personally I'd prefer a boxer six from an RS Porsche over the Ford V6.

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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The thing is, this is as cool as it gets. Like the Ultima, it's like a little endurance car for the road. Every trip feels, sounds and smells like a day at Le Mans. Live the dream! And God bless Radical/Ultima et al for making these awesome road racers!

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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rhinochopig said:
Same price as this.



http://www.stealthcars.co.uk/
Very nice! smile

pthelazyjourno

1,848 posts

169 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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Pistonwot said:
Only a pussy would focus on looks! spin, pee sitting down perhaps? thumbup
I accept your 'Radical Pussy' challenge laugh, biglaugh

First of all, I am genuinely grateful and applaud Radical.
BRAVO and thank you for producing a genuine sports car.
Thankfully for the few genuine car lovers left there are still brave pioneers like Radical who are immune to this effeminacy infection, genetically safeguarded from contracting fully blown
'I'm a pussy, suppress my manlyness' syndrome.


These heroes provide relief by offering up an extremely RARE machine in a sea of utter dross,
the full fat, hairy chested, genuine sports car!
This really is a mans sports car designed for proper men who still have balls, are not ashamed of them and want mans toys.

That will be non-pussys to you.

The way I see it,

Pussys are just scared of a MANS car because the pussy doesnt have the skills but desires the appreciation.
Thats the only reason I can see why pussys consistently rely upon their learned pussy responses and idiotic pussy 'arguments'.
They use these to mask the feelings of fear. Pussys.

"What about he air-con" is a staple.
"Have you seen the cheap plastic" is a cracker.
"I wouldnt want an ugly car" is another.



This machine is a drivers car.
The looks and equipment are governed by FUNCTION before form, look up what that means as you obviously do not get it.

(900kg downforce is DEFINITELY a clue to all but a moron and a pussy)

The design is not arrived at like it is at BMW Mini, simply chosen just because it matches 10 different pussy styles of pussy handbag.
Nor is it chosen because it matches 20 fashionable pussy hairstyles!
There are plenty of other pussy cars designed for pussys from which a pussy can choose from.

I bet you can even get them all in your favourite spray tan orangey-brown or bleached tooth white.
Pfffft,,,




Thankfully with this car the needs of the pussy have been completely ignored.
WHY?
Because that sh*ts for fuc**ng pussys!
What do you drive / ride?

subirg

718 posts

276 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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pthelazyjourno said:
What do you drive / ride?
What makes you think he's old enough to have a license?! The pussy infatuation would tend to suggest an early teens mindset...

Having said that- it did make me laugh.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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chuntington101 said:
rhinochopig said:
Same price as this.



http://www.stealthcars.co.uk/
Very nice! smile
This used to be my favorite poster car years before the market was flooded with all these new hypercars. Awesome piece of track kit evil

Nobby77

36 posts

164 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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Exhaust routing inside the wishbones is odd. Where are the driveshafts??

pthelazyjourno

1,848 posts

169 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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subirg said:
What makes you think he's old enough to have a license?! The pussy infatuation would tend to suggest an early teens mindset...

Having said that- it did make me laugh.
That's true. I couldn't work out if he was quite young or just a bit... You know.

I was merely curious. It was a bit Inbetweeners.

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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Nobby77 said:
Exhaust routing inside the wishbones is odd. Where are the driveshafts??
Between the top of the exhaust and the upper wishbone by the look of it - the travel will be fairly small over the exhaust, so it doesn't look too tricky...

dunc_sx

1,608 posts

197 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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I’m another one in the function over style camp, when I buy cars cosmetics are firmly last on the list of priorities. Also strangely the functional aspect of a race car (for example) to me makes the cosmetics more appealing. To explain - The group-B rally cars look a bit ridiculous but to me they look appealing because the parts which make them look silly also give them more performance which is where my interest is.

I suspect this Radical will look a bit better in the flesh btw, it’s not really a complimentary image – but the chassis etc CAD images look good.


Edited by dunc_sx on Friday 14th December 12:57

lap_time

339 posts

227 months

Saturday 15th December 2012
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I have to admit I've never really understood these "road legal" (and I use the term loosely) track cars. An Exige or GT3 et al I can just about understand, but in this case I can't help but feel if you want to go fast around a track, just buy a track car and a trailer. All of the compromises to make it road legal detract from it's primary purpose of being a track car. And I can't imagine it would be particularly pleasant to drive on the road, even with those road legal compromises.


DonkeyApple

55,328 posts

169 months

Saturday 15th December 2012
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lap_time said:
I have to admit I've never really understood these "road legal" (and I use the term loosely) track cars. An Exige or GT3 et al I can just about understand, but in this case I can't help but feel if you want to go fast around a track, just buy a track car and a trailer. All of the compromises to make it road legal detract from it's primary purpose of being a track car. And I can't imagine it would be particularly pleasant to drive on the road, even with those road legal compromises.
I can see the point with less expensive cars. But once you are paying £100k then a little more for a tow hitch and a trailer isn't issue.

I also thought that part of the Radical appeal was being able to tinker with the set up for each circuit.

But, I can't see the guys at Radical being stupid so there must be a business case for it.

Maybe it is for other countries where the distance between circuits is immense so people only use their nearest one and there is demand to just drive along in the morning, bat around and then go home without any faffing?