RE: You Know You Want To: Alpina B9 3.5
Discussion
Matt Bird said:
Hi guys, just to clarify a couple of things:
- I was aware of Alpina's motorsport history before becoming a fully-fledged company later in the 1970s. What I meant was that, where for example the E30 M3 was built for homolagation purposes, nothing bulit by Alpina was specifically for motorsport from the 80s onwards. That is until recently when Alpina have been racing and building the B6 GT3. Sorry if this didn't come across clearly enough.
- Alpina should have been recognised as a manufacturer and not a tuner; apologies for the mistake.
- I am always thorough with my work, especially as PH is such a discerning audience. I work with information I believe to be correct and never intend to produce anything wrong. Without wishing to make lame excuses, I'm still fairly new to writing as a career and simply lack the experience of older hacks; I'm doing everything possible to improve my skills to please bear with me for a bit longer. Of course, constructive criticism is always welcome!
Cheers,
Matt
Too little too late I'm afraid Matt. There needs to be a public inquiry to prevent this from happening again and someone must step down.- I was aware of Alpina's motorsport history before becoming a fully-fledged company later in the 1970s. What I meant was that, where for example the E30 M3 was built for homolagation purposes, nothing bulit by Alpina was specifically for motorsport from the 80s onwards. That is until recently when Alpina have been racing and building the B6 GT3. Sorry if this didn't come across clearly enough.
- Alpina should have been recognised as a manufacturer and not a tuner; apologies for the mistake.
- I am always thorough with my work, especially as PH is such a discerning audience. I work with information I believe to be correct and never intend to produce anything wrong. Without wishing to make lame excuses, I'm still fairly new to writing as a career and simply lack the experience of older hacks; I'm doing everything possible to improve my skills to please bear with me for a bit longer. Of course, constructive criticism is always welcome!
Cheers,
Matt
Lessons will be learnt.
I prefer these 'box-shaped' Beemers far more than their more streamlined successors. Perhaps because I learned to drive a stick on a friends '73 2002 tii (gosh, was that a wonderful experience(s)). And this one is a stunner. I would surely love to own and drive this beauty far more than a current M5. Just wow.
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Ther is a very simple rule to seperate out those BMWs which deserve classic status - they are those that when viewed from the side-have the bottom edge of the grille behind the top one!! Alpinas,M cars ad Hartge models all have the X factor from that period, sadly no more, too much of a branding boutique.
Good morning all, I can certainly tell you why as its my car for sale.
I bought the car as a impluse buy after seeing it. I went to 4star to look at a Porsche, saw this sat outside, went for a test drive with Jim at 4star and decided I loved it!! That retro feel, rwd, the looks, the smell and of course the sound of the engine which is amazing!
So - why I am selling after only 2 months. I only ever intended to have this car for 6 months as I have a big car wish list which I want to tick off but more importantly, I need to free up some money and put it into a house. I think a car like this might take a little bit of time to sell hence why its up but I'm not in a desperate rush for it to go for silly money. I just want what I paid for it back.
The car did need a few bits sorting which at the time of sale was not an issue but has ultimately made the car drive so much better!
Am honest and open and have nothing to hide. Feel free to speak to 4star if you like who I got the car from, call me for a chat (number in the classified section) or speak to Nigel or Matt at NBA Sportcars in Dunsfold who did the work on the car who certainly know there stuff!!
Thanks
Neil
I bought the car as a impluse buy after seeing it. I went to 4star to look at a Porsche, saw this sat outside, went for a test drive with Jim at 4star and decided I loved it!! That retro feel, rwd, the looks, the smell and of course the sound of the engine which is amazing!
So - why I am selling after only 2 months. I only ever intended to have this car for 6 months as I have a big car wish list which I want to tick off but more importantly, I need to free up some money and put it into a house. I think a car like this might take a little bit of time to sell hence why its up but I'm not in a desperate rush for it to go for silly money. I just want what I paid for it back.
The car did need a few bits sorting which at the time of sale was not an issue but has ultimately made the car drive so much better!
Am honest and open and have nothing to hide. Feel free to speak to 4star if you like who I got the car from, call me for a chat (number in the classified section) or speak to Nigel or Matt at NBA Sportcars in Dunsfold who did the work on the car who certainly know there stuff!!
Thanks
Neil
Matt Bird said:
Hi guys, just to clarify a couple of things:
- I was aware of Alpina's motorsport history before becoming a fully-fledged company later in the 1970s. What I meant was that, where for example the E30 M3 was built for homolagation purposes, nothing bulit by Alpina was specifically for motorsport from the 80s onwards. That is until recently when Alpina have been racing and building the B6 GT3. Sorry if this didn't come across clearly enough.
- Alpina should have been recognised as a manufacturer and not a tuner; apologies for the mistake.
- I am always thorough with my work, especially as PH is such a discerning audience. I work with information I believe to be correct and never intend to produce anything wrong. Without wishing to make lame excuses, I'm still fairly new to writing as a career and simply lack the experience of older hacks; I'm doing everything possible to improve my skills to please bear with me for a bit longer. Of course, constructive criticism is always welcome!
Cheers,
Matt
- I was aware of Alpina's motorsport history before becoming a fully-fledged company later in the 1970s. What I meant was that, where for example the E30 M3 was built for homolagation purposes, nothing bulit by Alpina was specifically for motorsport from the 80s onwards. That is until recently when Alpina have been racing and building the B6 GT3. Sorry if this didn't come across clearly enough.
- Alpina should have been recognised as a manufacturer and not a tuner; apologies for the mistake.
- I am always thorough with my work, especially as PH is such a discerning audience. I work with information I believe to be correct and never intend to produce anything wrong. Without wishing to make lame excuses, I'm still fairly new to writing as a career and simply lack the experience of older hacks; I'm doing everything possible to improve my skills to please bear with me for a bit longer. Of course, constructive criticism is always welcome!
Cheers,
Matt
PPPPPP said:
Paul M said:
DJRC said:
Glad I wasnt the only one chewing over this. Alpina doesnt have the heritage of BMW M?
Somebody on PH needs a history lesson.
And that lesson could be on Alpina's prominence in the late 1960's and 70's therefore showing they have more heritage than BMW M!Somebody on PH needs a history lesson.
I come from an older motoring school
and had a series of 1980 cars that had stripes applied by striping specialists at the time - on reflection they looked keen then, not awful as they look now in my opinion.
The same with the Alpina, those stripes! - now, to me look just as bad
as any of above, except larger and more over powering.
This car is overloaded with stripes, that spoils it appeal for me as an oldie, the car without stripes has more elegance in its own right.
I like the period etc and quality that went into 1980/1990 cars, so my project is an unstriped Avus blue M5, very simple looking - no frills apart from pretty wheels and granit silver where appropriate, exactly as build sheet published in 1992.
Maybe not as rare as Alpina but still has the real magic and that 3.8 lump of classy M Power.
and had a series of 1980 cars that had stripes applied by striping specialists at the time - on reflection they looked keen then, not awful as they look now in my opinion.
The same with the Alpina, those stripes! - now, to me look just as bad
as any of above, except larger and more over powering.
This car is overloaded with stripes, that spoils it appeal for me as an oldie, the car without stripes has more elegance in its own right.
I like the period etc and quality that went into 1980/1990 cars, so my project is an unstriped Avus blue M5, very simple looking - no frills apart from pretty wheels and granit silver where appropriate, exactly as build sheet published in 1992.
Maybe not as rare as Alpina but still has the real magic and that 3.8 lump of classy M Power.
Edited by urquattro on Friday 14th December 16:20
Absolutely love it, and would be very tempted by an E28 or E34 Alpina if I didn't already have a C2 in the garage which I couldn't bear to sell (unless I can get the funds together for a B6 3.5S )
As correctly stated above IMO, stripes/deko sets are Alpina!
One of my favourite cars from the Essen show earlier in the year:
As correctly stated above IMO, stripes/deko sets are Alpina!
One of my favourite cars from the Essen show earlier in the year:
Edited by Leins on Friday 14th December 16:56
The Motorsport reference has been corrected so I won't dwell on it - but suffice to say the CSL was the roadgoing version of the E9 Touring Car - developed for the track by ALPINA.
Until the advent of the ///M badge, Alpinas were drivers' cars. Since the ///M badge they have had to sit alongside, hence the 'fast tourer' approach.
I have an E24 B9. It's dyno'd at 280bhp and will give any M635 a run for its money. Easily overlooked - not so easily overtaken!
Until the advent of the ///M badge, Alpinas were drivers' cars. Since the ///M badge they have had to sit alongside, hence the 'fast tourer' approach.
I have an E24 B9. It's dyno'd at 280bhp and will give any M635 a run for its money. Easily overlooked - not so easily overtaken!
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