RE: RIP Subaru Impreza
Discussion
Yet another sacrifice on the altar of the new religion of anthropogenic climate change. Bought a turbo wagon back in 1995 after Colin won the WRC in one. We called 911s Scoobysnacks back then. N55 UWK, where are you now?? I guess we'll have to hope that the importers see sense & bring in the turbo Forester with a proper manual box instead of that CVT thing...
Dagz said:
Erm totally agree! The 135i is cerfuddled by half an inch of snow and completely unusable!! I love the winter when you see a queue of bmw's at the bottom of a snowy hill abandoned, oh how it warms my insides!!
And most decent imprezas hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, i think that jumps all over the 5.3 seconds of the 135i, am i right?!!
Get your facts right before writing daft comments!
Its a sad day, an iconic car
There is a 135i M with 4WD in the LHD form. As well as RWD form.And most decent imprezas hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, i think that jumps all over the 5.3 seconds of the 135i, am i right?!!
Get your facts right before writing daft comments!
Its a sad day, an iconic car
tractorguy said:
I was never keen on the later models but its still a shame its going, with no Evo 11 on the horizon won't that make Audi the only brand with awd saloon?
Off the top of my head, it only leaves Audi, VW and Vauxhall (with the Insiginia VXR). I don't want any of them. Looks like my Evo is staying for now. Even if someone gave me £30k and told me to buy a new car, I really would struggle to find anything I give a toss about.If you're a true fan,
You'll buy one from Japan!
Besides, a BRZ STI and a diesel Forester or Legacy Outback in the garage sounds like a better way into Subaru ownership.
The whole Impreza's are better in poor weather than say, the M135i, is a pretty flawed argument if you ask me. Any AWD Subaru would be better in bad weather than a RWD car.
The real question; Is the market willing to pay for AWD and performance in a single package? Clearly they're not in 2012/13. You could argue it's not a sports car or hot hatch, it's not even a sensible off roader because of ground clearance. It's compromised further by being expensive to own and run while not being seen as desirable. There's no cult following or reverence with the modern cars, there's no motor sport connection or hero worship either. Which is why it's being pulled in the UK.
There's no denying it, I'm bloody right.
You'll buy one from Japan!
Besides, a BRZ STI and a diesel Forester or Legacy Outback in the garage sounds like a better way into Subaru ownership.
The whole Impreza's are better in poor weather than say, the M135i, is a pretty flawed argument if you ask me. Any AWD Subaru would be better in bad weather than a RWD car.
The real question; Is the market willing to pay for AWD and performance in a single package? Clearly they're not in 2012/13. You could argue it's not a sports car or hot hatch, it's not even a sensible off roader because of ground clearance. It's compromised further by being expensive to own and run while not being seen as desirable. There's no cult following or reverence with the modern cars, there's no motor sport connection or hero worship either. Which is why it's being pulled in the UK.
There's no denying it, I'm bloody right.
Dagz said:
Erm totally agree! The 135i is cerfuddled by half an inch of snow and completely unusable!! I love the winter when you see a queue of bmw's at the bottom of a snowy hill abandoned, oh how it warms my insides!!
And most decent imprezas hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, i think that jumps all over the 5.3 seconds of the 135i, am i right?!!
Get your facts right before writing daft comments!
And most decent imprezas hit 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, i think that jumps all over the 5.3 seconds of the 135i, am i right?!!
Get your facts right before writing daft comments!
JuniorJet said:
Sad day, but perhaps this will be good news for Subaru owners - rarity should now start to push values up
I disagree, on the whole imprezas are generally dropping in price and will continue to do so imo. the only exceptions are the limited editions which are currently appreciating or holding their value pretty well anyway.Nevertheless, its still a shame to see imprezas go.
David87 said:
Isn't Subaru dropping the Impreza to focus on SUVs like John Sergeant quitting journalism to focus on his dancing career?
TRIBECA
They don't make that any more, it is the less minging XV now:TRIBECA
The exchange rate and CO2s have killed Imprezas (and Evos). Weird how everyone else can make low CO2 turbo engines and Subaru apparently can't.
traffman said:
No surprise as everyone apart from Subaru themselves could see that they shot themselves in the foot when they ditched the saloon shape and went with the hatchback.
Not to mention the loss of the halo effect when they quit rallying - if they'd still been competing in the WRC maybe the later models would have continued to sell as well as the earlier ones didBiggest issue Subaru has is that, of the last 3 dealers I've been to, none of them had any Subarus either in the showroom or available for test drive. They are all now multi franchise and the dealers don't seem to have to stock any demo cars!
How can they expect to sell any cars if you can't have a drive or look in one before you order it?
How can they expect to sell any cars if you can't have a drive or look in one before you order it?
A very very sad state of affairs indeed
However I can't say I would defend Subarus recent attempts at reinventing the Impreza against any criticism. I have always been a massive fan of Subarus but when they switched to the fat ugly hatch, of which they made a fat ugly saloon version later to try and salvage things, I just lost all interest.
I still lust after many of their older cars though such as an MY06 Spec C or an RB320 or RB5...... oh yes!
I would also like to point out I think the Evo X is a hideous looking bit of kit.
However I can't say I would defend Subarus recent attempts at reinventing the Impreza against any criticism. I have always been a massive fan of Subarus but when they switched to the fat ugly hatch, of which they made a fat ugly saloon version later to try and salvage things, I just lost all interest.
I still lust after many of their older cars though such as an MY06 Spec C or an RB320 or RB5...... oh yes!
I would also like to point out I think the Evo X is a hideous looking bit of kit.
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