RE: Spotted: Lexus LFA
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Performance figures are not everything but what really sticks with me is why isn't this car lighter?
For years we read of new composite light weight materials, how the engine would be as small and as light a V6 but deliver V12 performance..and when it arrived it was no lighter than a 458 or a 12c
For years we read of new composite light weight materials, how the engine would be as small and as light a V6 but deliver V12 performance..and when it arrived it was no lighter than a 458 or a 12c
Dagnut said:
Performance figures are not everything but what really sticks with me is why isn't this car lighter?
For years we read of new composite light weight materials, how the engine would be as small and as light a V6 but deliver V12 performance..and when it arrived it was no lighter than a 458 or a 12c
Isn't it a much bigger car than either? For years we read of new composite light weight materials, how the engine would be as small and as light a V6 but deliver V12 performance..and when it arrived it was no lighter than a 458 or a 12c
Although to be honest, I'm rather baffled as to how any modern cars are so heavy.
If Lexus made 500 I bet they haven't all been sold. I think this car will depreciate, and just like the NSX you will be able to pick one up for "bargain" money before they appreciate again. I'll take a punt on the LFA costing £100k in five years. They will still be loved by a few, but everybody else will have moved on. I've started saving already. I think spending €380k now is a serious case of more money than sense.
deadtom said:
sad to say I'm on of those that really don't 'get' the LFA. As competition to the R8, gallardo and others of similar price and performance then I can see how it would make a good left field choice despite being a rice rocket, but at that price?
I just can't fathom it.
As a fan of superb engineering, would anyone care to say in what way the LFA is a masterpiece?
I just can't fathom it.
As a fan of superb engineering, would anyone care to say in what way the LFA is a masterpiece?
"Rice rocket"
As for the "masterpiece", if you look into it, everything in this car is bespoke. It houses a 4.8L V10 and the redline is OVER 9000.
The production process, the tub, the only equivalent I can think of in the car world at this time is Pagani, and they don't exactly sell £ 200k cars either.
I think the analogy of this car is the same that JC once used for the Merc McLaren SLR:
The question is not "why is it 3 times as expensive as the best SL, it's: why is this only half as much as the F1?".
ZesPak said:
"Rice rocket"
As for the "masterpiece", if you look into it, everything in this car is bespoke. It houses a 4.8L V10 and the redline is OVER 9000.
The production process, the tub, the only equivalent I can think of in the car world at this time is Pagani, and they don't exactly sell £ 200k cars either.
I think the analogy of this car is the same that JC once used for the Merc McLaren SLR:
The question is not "why is it 3 times as expensive as the best SL, it's: why is this only half as much as the F1?".
deadtom said:
sad to say I'm on of those that really don't 'get' the LFA. As competition to the R8, gallardo and others of similar price and performance then I can see how it would make a good left field choice despite being a rice rocket, but at that price?
Read my post. It was born of hubris. When it eventually hit the market its reason for existing had evaporated.Imagine an alternative world where Toyota won its maiden season in F1 in 2002 and this was launched to celebrate.....
ZesPak said:
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I appreciate what you're saying, but as someone else pointed out just now, what about the MP4? you could say the exact same about that car, which incidentally is more powerful, faster (though as others have stated, power and speed is apparently not the idea of a third of a million pound supercar) and to these eyes at least, prettier.One of the most intense driving experiences of my life, especially with the shift speed wound round to its most brutal
The car appeared to seem to steer around a pivot point about where your hip is placed when sat behind the wheel - and the noise is even better inside than out
Watching Alex Wurz wring an LFA's neck around Estoril for a couple of days earlier in the year was highly entertaining
Can't remember without digging out the info but only 27-29 came to Europe and they all had to be bought via Lexus Park Lane, several people bought more than one and I think there is only 3-4 in the UK, one of which is owned by Lexus
The car appeared to seem to steer around a pivot point about where your hip is placed when sat behind the wheel - and the noise is even better inside than out
Watching Alex Wurz wring an LFA's neck around Estoril for a couple of days earlier in the year was highly entertaining
Can't remember without digging out the info but only 27-29 came to Europe and they all had to be bought via Lexus Park Lane, several people bought more than one and I think there is only 3-4 in the UK, one of which is owned by Lexus
Edited by Andy665 on Tuesday 18th December 12:36
After_Shock said:
How many exist in the U.K, officially?
Sure I was told only 3 made it but I could be imagining that conversation!!
Sounds about right, and 'how many left?' agrees:Sure I was told only 3 made it but I could be imagining that conversation!!
http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/lexus_lfa_f_s...
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