RE: Adieu, vieil ami...

[Escort Si-130]

I wont miss it at all. Im glad its gone, this should have never got pass the drawing board. This seems to have been a retro design, based on that ugly looking Citroen from the early 1980's that had the same lowering suspension and horrid looks.

[Limpet]

Scrof said:

Oh well - the beauty of one of these is that it's probably more comfy than your own bed. You can sleep in a car, but you can't drive a house, etc...

Hmmmm....*strokes chin*

[Kitchski]

PascalBuyens said:

RemarkLima said:

Now that is a right shocker... What a shame. No air suspension even?

You mean hydraulic suspension, surely?

Or combine the two perhaps

[anonymous-user]

PascalBuyens said:

RenOHH said:

V6 turbocharged engine and only 201 bhp. Is that a typo?!

Nope, it's a diesel

Still, it seems a bit low for a 2.7 in a car made in 2007.

[Kitchski]

RenOHH said:

PascalBuyens said:

RenOHH said:

V6 turbocharged engine and only 201 bhp. Is that a typo?!

Nope, it's a diesel

Still, it seems a bit low for a 2.7 in a car made in 2007.

It doesn't need any more, it's not meant to go fast

As long as it's quick enough, that's fine in cars like this. Lower states of tune usually mean better economy, longer lifespan of engine components too, not to mention emissions (which are still pretty horrific for a derv)

Don't forget they put the same engine in the Jag S-Type and Land Rover Discovery....in other words nothing that needs to go fast. Swift and smooth is order of the day.

[WorAl]

[quote=Baryonyx]


I was just about to say "I know a bloke with one of these".

A taxi driver in North Tyneside uses one, funnily enough. Just like the Vectra VXR, VW Phaeton and the old Audi A8 4.2 I used to see taxiing round here, there are some pretty cool cars on the council books amongst the sea of black Passats and Superbs!
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OT - I've been in that Phaeton, I couldn't believe the size of it. I could have had a game of football in the back.

[PascalBuyens]

A lex said:

RenOHH said:

PascalBuyens said:

RenOHH said:

V6 turbocharged engine and only 201 bhp. Is that a typo?!

Nope, it's a diesel

Still, it seems a bit low for a 2.7 in a car made in 2007.

I *think* the 200bhp output might be a car tax cheat for certain European countries..... not 100% sure though.

The TDV6 isn't a high power engine, but is setup for torque. My RRS (same engine) had "only" 178bhp before tuning, and went up to 216bhp after it. not that much, but torque figure went from 440Nm to 580 Nm. (324 to 427 lbs ft that is) The difference was immense, and in thse type of cars, the torque is what makes them comfy to drive...

[Gizmoish]

Such a bizarre thing... why is it that we like our luxurious big saloons to be as sporty as possible?

If you want sporty, buy a sportscar. If you want luxurious, buy one of these. Except you can't now.

Surprised that the Chinese didn't buy loads of them - or maybe not - they prefer saloons. Citroen: make one of these with a boot. Black with red leather. Win.

[fourwheelsteer]

Gizmoish said:

Such a bizarre thing... why is it that we like our luxurious big saloons to be as sporty as possible?

If you want sporty, buy a sportscar. If you want luxurious, buy one of these. Except you can't now.

Surprised that the Chinese didn't buy loads of them - or maybe not - they prefer saloons. Citroen: make one of these with a boot. Black with red leather. Win.

It does have a boot, it isn't a hatchback. The CX was the same, sloping fastback body that looked like a hatch but with a conventional boot. Nice, low loading lip too; the opening seemed quite shallow but the boot seemed to go back miles into the car.

[RemarkLima]

PascalBuyens said:

RemarkLima said:

Now that is a right shocker... What a shame. No air suspension even?

You mean hydraulic suspension, surely?

No, I mean with the death of Hydraulic suspension (well, hydro-pnumatic) will Citroen migrate their tech to air suspension like the big German and Japanese cars?

It would be a shame for Citroen to just go to steel springs and dampers only...

[BogBeast]

Horrible things.

[Gizmoish]

Scrof said:

SGirl said:

"Vieux ami", actually. "Vieille" is the feminine, but the masculine is "vieux".

Sorry PH. I just thought you might like to be accurate in your headlines.

Actually, 'vieil' is the masculine form when used before a word starting with a vowel. See here: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/french...

Technically, I should really have used 'vielle amie', as a car is a feminine object in French. But I went for 'ami' in a rather poor attempt to play on the fact there was a Citroen Ami. That being the case 'vieil' is the right form of 'vieux' to use.

</pedant>

Pedantry and puns in French. Top work, you can stay

[Gizmoish]

fourwheelsteer said:

Gizmoish said:

Such a bizarre thing... why is it that we like our luxurious big saloons to be as sporty as possible?

If you want sporty, buy a sportscar. If you want luxurious, buy one of these. Except you can't now.

Surprised that the Chinese didn't buy loads of them - or maybe not - they prefer saloons. Citroen: make one of these with a boot. Black with red leather. Win.

It does have a boot, it isn't a hatchback. The CX was the same, sloping fastback body that looked like a hatch but with a conventional boot. Nice, low loading lip too; the opening seemed quite shallow but the boot seemed to go back miles into the car.

That's my thing I've learned today. I thought both this and the CX were hatches.

[dapprman]

I've had mine for ~13 months now, use it as a daily drive, mainly back roads, never missed a beat. Funny thing is before I got mine I hardly saw any on the road, now I semi regularly see 4 others around Watford, Rickmansworth, Hairfield and Uxbridge/Heathrow.

The weird part of ownership is not the fact the first time I drove it to work one of the security guards on the business park saluted me, but the fact I keep getting people coming up to me saying things along the line of "I've always liked/fancied one of those, what's it like".

The car is some what marmite, and as a kid I would have got car sick in it. It's more marmite for the ride and fear over Citroen's legendary reliability - not many on it's looks. but then beauty in the eye etc (most people who criticise its looks drive cars I wouldn't be seen dead in, but then to them they may well be things of beauty)

There is one thing I need to take up on though ....
Two Decembers ago I encountered a certain MX5 hating journo at a very snowy Ace Cafe, when I arrived in my top down MK1 MX5 (with snow piled up on the rear shelf ...). ~20 months later said Journo now has one of his own (though I don;t remember ever seeing a picture of it top down ...). Feb this year I turn up at a PH photo course session and once more meet this reporter of excellent taste. This time I'm in my C6. Now we see

Garlick said:

Driven a few of these and it's one of the few cars where I'd choose the diesel over the petrol as it suits the car so much better.

I'm a big fan, will definitely own one at some point.

I'm almost tempted to buy a Austin Maestro, turn up at PH towers in it, and see what happens 18 months down the line

[bangerturner]

This Makes me very sad