RE: SOTW: Citroen Saxo VTR
Discussion
I always liked these, but they did get ruined a lot of the time and driven by tits.
Shame you cant get a C1 VTR, well you can, we have one but it is VTR in name only as it gets exactly the same underpinnings and engine as the rest of the range, a 100 bhp ish version.
I remember being in a 850 T5 and had a VTS all over me, I was in the way on the twisty stuff and even on the straight bits it did a lot better than I would have imagined, took a dual carriageway to pull any distance on it.
Shame you cant get a C1 VTR, well you can, we have one but it is VTR in name only as it gets exactly the same underpinnings and engine as the rest of the range, a 100 bhp ish version.
I remember being in a 850 T5 and had a VTS all over me, I was in the way on the twisty stuff and even on the straight bits it did a lot better than I would have imagined, took a dual carriageway to pull any distance on it.
doogz said:
Krikkit said:
Great little comedy shed - great handling, although the power and gearbox are odd bedfellows, because it's a revvy unit that's coupled to a hugely long gearbox. Either way, worth a punt. 
The 8v isn't that revvy, although the FD is a bit long.Mastodon2 said:
I didn't realise these had a redline at only 6100rpm.
Hits peak power at 5800rpm and I'm not sure where the fuel cut is but I'd be suprised if its below 6500rpm. Its revs out ok, no screamer though.utterly chavtastic rubbish I'm afraid. Every teenage idiot in my area owns one of these, or a Corsa, with huge exhausts (the diameter of dustbins) and a cheap stereo that distorts the quality tunes they're playing. No thanks, despite the boot being useful for carrying the Staffie in.
I am not saying this a bad car at all but where did the author get the performance stats from? These cars (when new) would get to 60 in a whisker under 10 seconds and would struggle to get past 115mph. Hardly 8 seconds ish and 120 mph (please do not post replies saying you did a 140mph in a 1.1 saxo as such stories always ignore the fact speedos are not accurate). Another note, these do not come in under 900kg, thats only the basic models, VTR is about 930kg and the VTS slighty heavier.
In presenting a SOTW there is no need to beef up the stats to make it look like more of a bargain. Its just a cheap run about and there are plenty of others out there to choose from.
the fact it a decent VTS can be had for under a £1000 so why bother with the 8V, by all accounts its not even economical.
note to shed, MUST TRY HARDER NEXT TIME!
In presenting a SOTW there is no need to beef up the stats to make it look like more of a bargain. Its just a cheap run about and there are plenty of others out there to choose from.
the fact it a decent VTS can be had for under a £1000 so why bother with the 8V, by all accounts its not even economical.
note to shed, MUST TRY HARDER NEXT TIME!
doogz said:
Krikkit said:
Yes indeed. Yours looks nice, are you on the RR?
Not any more, do they still charge you something like £20 a year to use the forum? Yours looks nice, are you on the RR?doogz said:
Mikeyplum said:
I miss my VTR 
was so much fun. A lot more fun than my Fiesta Zetec S actually, and a little bit quicker, considering it was 8v short of the Zetec S.
The rear disc brakes made it a little tail happy under heavy braking though. But I suppose that just added to the fun!
Nice to see a good, standard example for so little money. Got me thinking now
Was it lowered at all? was so much fun. A lot more fun than my Fiesta Zetec S actually, and a little bit quicker, considering it was 8v short of the Zetec S.The rear disc brakes made it a little tail happy under heavy braking though. But I suppose that just added to the fun!
Nice to see a good, standard example for so little money. Got me thinking now
. I would have liked to lower it, but I would have wanted to do it properly, which can be quite expensive for a Saxo, beleive it or not 
Chicane-UK said:
Had a VTR for about a year. Great little car.. but I wouldn't want to have an accident in it!
Crash test videoTop comments pretty funny too.
There's no denying whatsoever that the majority of these are owned by ...well...the hoody types you see pottering around. You know, the yobbos...the type of happy go lucky smug faced git I was when I hit 17 and passed my test.
Either way, I'd never have one of these. No ABS in winter in a car that will happily take your legs off in a front end smash. Not that you factor in such events when buying a shed as they're probably all death traps! But the Pug 106 does have ABS and the 306 is safer still by virtue of it being larger.
I'm not saying all VTR/VTS drivers are chavs....but most of the ones I've seen seem to lean in that direction going from appearance alone.
Harsh judgement as they're probably decent people. Saying that, there's a hottie blonde local to me who has a blue 'Furio' with lexus lights. Awful car, lovely bum!
/pervemodeoff
Either way, I'd never have one of these. No ABS in winter in a car that will happily take your legs off in a front end smash. Not that you factor in such events when buying a shed as they're probably all death traps! But the Pug 106 does have ABS and the 306 is safer still by virtue of it being larger.
I'm not saying all VTR/VTS drivers are chavs....but most of the ones I've seen seem to lean in that direction going from appearance alone.
Harsh judgement as they're probably decent people. Saying that, there's a hottie blonde local to me who has a blue 'Furio' with lexus lights. Awful car, lovely bum!
/pervemodeoff
I had a VTS from new in 2001 and I've not owned a car since that I could drive at ten tenths like I did with that little thing. Scottish highland roads ended up being a maze of late night rally stages! I kept it totally standard and put 100,000 trouble free miles on it. I properly miss it.
anything fast said:
I am not saying this a bad car at all but where did the author get the performance stats from? These cars (when new) would get to 60 in a whisker under 10 seconds and would struggle to get past 115mph. Hardly 8 seconds ish and 120 mph (please do not post replies saying you did a 140mph in a 1.1 saxo as such stories always ignore the fact speedos are not accurate). Another note, these do not come in under 900kg, thats only the basic models, VTR is about 930kg and the VTS slighty heavier.
In presenting a SOTW there is no need to beef up the stats to make it look like more of a bargain. Its just a cheap run about and there are plenty of others out there to choose from.
the fact it a decent VTS can be had for under a £1000 so why bother with the 8V, by all accounts its not even economical.
note to shed, MUST TRY HARDER NEXT TIME!
You're right, the speedos are not accurate, on the autobahn last year mine was reading 130mph, sadly the GPS burst my bubble and revealed I was actually only going 124mph.In presenting a SOTW there is no need to beef up the stats to make it look like more of a bargain. Its just a cheap run about and there are plenty of others out there to choose from.
the fact it a decent VTS can be had for under a £1000 so why bother with the 8V, by all accounts its not even economical.
note to shed, MUST TRY HARDER NEXT TIME!
Over 10 months of ownership, mine has averaged over 42mpg (tank to tank measurements) mixed driving, the lowest I've seen in a normal month was 34mpg, and that was purely city driving, hardly uneconimical. The lowest I've seen was 21mpg and that was after 3 laps of the Nurburgring (clearly I wasn't trying hard enough)!
Why would anyone buy a VTR over a VTS/106Gti you ask? Insurance, it's half the insurance group, but is certainly not half the fun.
doogz said:
only1ian said:
Only need one: "Michalins"
Wow, that's a pretty weak argument. One person misspelt one word, by one letter. Therefore all Saxo owners are chavs.Well done.
Hellbound said:
No ABS in winter in a car that will happily take your legs off in a front end smash. Not that you factor in such events when buying a shed as they're probably all death traps! But the Pug 106 does have ABS and the 306 is safer still by virtue of it being larger.
Not quite true, my VTR had ABS, it came as part of a safety pack which also included side airbags...Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff