RE: SOTW: Saab 9-5 Aero HOT
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Seems like a quality shed but what the f
k is that automatic DOING - it's like an anchor, in performance terms...
Saab values are all-over-the-place of course - selling them isn't easy because people are concerned about - well - values!!
I know someone who (quite foolishly) threw £3K at a lower-spec 2.0 LPT Auto Saloon a bit under a year ago - it's probably worth 9p now and he's busily not fixing any of it's issues/using stty oil etc. so it will die soon anyway 
It's dashboard is like Christmas 12 months of the year too - I didn't realise there were this many lights you could show a driver...
k is that automatic DOING - it's like an anchor, in performance terms...Saab values are all-over-the-place of course - selling them isn't easy because people are concerned about - well - values!!
I know someone who (quite foolishly) threw £3K at a lower-spec 2.0 LPT Auto Saloon a bit under a year ago - it's probably worth 9p now and he's busily not fixing any of it's issues/using s
tty oil etc. so it will die soon anyway It's dashboard is like Christmas 12 months of the year too - I didn't realise there were this many lights you could show a driver...
lord summerisle said:
dukebox9reg said:
The ride and handling are appalling and genuinely scary down twisty back roads, the highest mileage example of either 93/95 iv'e driven had 70k on the clock and all of them had missing trim, rattled, squeaked and felt like a poor man's product. The ergonomics and quality of the interior I feel is particularly poor as well.
Completely contary to my experiance.Both my saabs have/had over 100k miles (first 9-5, a 2001 estate, was sold when it hit 185k miles and my current one a 2004 Aero estate has 147k)
My dad had a similar highmiler a few years ago.
Interior trim on all remained as good as new - to rattles what so ever. Did hear a rattle the otherday... but that turned out the missus had put a pen in the passenger door pocket, and it was vibrating against her sunglasses with the music i was playing.
Terms of fuel, our Aero is an Auto - but we're getting about 27-29mpg for the weekly commute.
A lot of car for the money. love em.
Mine does suffer from torque-steer at low speeds (if I'm honest there's basically too much power for what is after all quite an old chassis) but, as others have said, mid-range acceleration is always grin-inducing. Handling and ride I would say are at least commensurate with others of its class.
The interior has more than its fair share of hard plastics, true, but mine feels solid as a rock, no squeeks, no rattles and nothing has ever gone wrong in the 20,000 miles I've done in the last 2 years (on 92,000 now).
lord summerisle said:
dukebox9reg said:
The ride and handling are appalling and genuinely scary down twisty back roads, the highest mileage example of either 93/95 iv'e driven had 70k on the clock and all of them had missing trim, rattled, squeaked and felt like a poor man's product. The ergonomics and quality of the interior I feel is particularly poor as well.
Completely contary to my experiance.Both my saabs have/had over 100k miles (first 9-5, a 2001 estate, was sold when it hit 185k miles and my current one a 2004 Aero estate has 147k)
My dad had a similar highmiler a few years ago.
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My dad has had Saabs for years including a 9000 aero which was owned from maybe 50-60k to 250k and the only mechanical failure was caused by a bird going through the grill/radiator.
After that the 95 Aero, bought brand new, driven over 30k in it's first year with only servicing, then it was nearly written off. It was repaired and did another 60k+ in 2 years and was sold with just shy of 100k.
That was replaced with a Saab 93 TID, which was laid to rest a couple of years ago with over 250k on it.
I have also owned a 93TID which went from 160-190k but retired early due to a fuel pump failure and me deciding that £700 on a fuel pump could be better spent on a new shed - ok, it was an excuse to go shopping!!
trashbat said:
I like it too. What everyone above said really, especially that it was good writing.
Fat mate?PH said:
Saab’s motorsport development drivers called it the Monster. Why? Because, at speed, the rear end would lift off the ground. The rear end. How would you deal with that?
Brilliant.P2BS said:
Rollcage said:
For the manual at least I'm sorry to say that they can be surprisingly economical 
40mog achievabke with care.
Not the auto with a stage 1 remap... prob about 1/2 of 40mpg. 40mog achievabke with care.
32-35mpg was easily attainable on a run, as long as you kept it below three figures
Faust66 said:
Good shed!
Always had a real soft spot for these. I regard Saabs as an itch in the middle of my back that I can’t... quite...reach. One day that itch’ll be scratched though!
I mean, a turbo’d barge pumping out 250 ‘horse for a grand (less if your battering skills are up to speed); what’s not to like?
From the seller’s add it looks like this car has been pretty well maintained and seems to be in reasonable condition for its age, so (hopefully) there won’t be too many horrors awaiting the new owner.
Much less, but there's a name for that...you TWOCer Always had a real soft spot for these. I regard Saabs as an itch in the middle of my back that I can’t... quite...reach. One day that itch’ll be scratched though!
I mean, a turbo’d barge pumping out 250 ‘horse for a grand (less if your battering skills are up to speed); what’s not to like?
From the seller’s add it looks like this car has been pretty well maintained and seems to be in reasonable condition for its age, so (hopefully) there won’t be too many horrors awaiting the new owner.
Nice shed. You do get a lot of car for the money......I'm on my 2nd Saab 9-5 Estate. The first was a 2004 3.0 V6 diesel and the current one is a remapped 2005 2.0t petrol, both Vector Sport models. They have been perfect for my daily commute...fairly quick, spacious, economical, squeak and rattle free and last but not least extremely comfortable. Would love to scratch the Aero itch at some point.
JREwing said:
lordturns said:
A return to form for SOTW, rather than the 'Citroen Sexo' featured before. This is a nice shed - a family friend of mine has a 9-5 3 litre V6 turbo...don't know how quick it is or what bhp. The cabin is lovely and full of leather goodness with a huge chunk of wood for the dash.
That would be the diesel and widely thought to be the most problematic in the range (overheating issues, I think?)I have no experience, I'm just repeating hearsay, as a disclaimer. It's also around 180bhp I believe.
The petrol V6 was discontinued when the Aero officially got 250bhp.
When owning a 9-5 you're recommended to keep a spare DI Cassette (coil pack) in the boot, along with the torx bit to replace it - they're the most common cause of breakdowns.
Hot starting issues are the crank position sensor, easily changed.
Throttle body electronic mechanisms giving up used to be another 9-5ism, but you don't hear too much about them these days.
My first 9-5 died due to oil starvation; the sump pick up was full of metal filings from the balance shaft chain, which had lunched itself over time. No sludge as such, more of a swarf!
Edited by P2BS on Friday 4th January 13:32
I think trash bat mean't you would put a fat mate in the back of a 93 that wanted to take off, nothing to do with your powerful build 
We have one of these as our family bus, too - LPG'd which helps on fuel. Has the capability to throw bills at you, mind - we've just replaced rear springs, had the head done, replaced front headlight sensor as well as the sump dropped just to make sure.
That said, it's a solid motor and Mrs BFB likes driving it, in the flesh they're not as big as you might imagine.
ETA
I forgot the front subframe rear bush replacements, too.
That said, it's a solid motor and Mrs BFB likes driving it, in the flesh they're not as big as you might imagine.
ETA
I forgot the front subframe rear bush replacements, too.
Edited by Bonefish Blues on Friday 4th January 17:45
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