RE: PH Carpool: BMW M5 (E34) Touring

[vetrof]

Exactly.

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E34/Sedan/Europe...

[Loplop]

They don't get nearly as much air to pass over the brakes though do they?

Speaking of which, anyone experienced turbines over throwing stars or Parallels? Were they noticeably different?

[vetrof]

There is a thread on M5board where a member (Danish, I think) has done some tests on the ring. He says the cooling effect in negligible. In fact he says the M-Pars keep the brakes the coolest.


http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e34-m5-discussion...

Edited by vetrof on Tuesday 8th January 12:09

Edited by vetrof on Tuesday 8th January 12:09

[Loplop]

Really? Bizzare! Is that on a later 3.8 6 Speed with the floating discs or?

[Devil2575]

Love it.

A proper car!

[MPOWERBULLA]

Loved reading this, makes me realize I'm stuck with my 3.8 for many more years, here's a pic of how she sits now , I use the throwing stars for my Ring trips .............

[will261058]

I really miss my E34 alas not an M5 but the build was second to none. I would just love an M5 Touring. Old as they are, get a good one and keep it forever!

[will261058]

MPOWERBULLA said:

Loved reading this, makes me realize I'm stuck with my 3.8 for many more years, here's a pic of how she sits now , I use the throwing stars for my Ring trips .............

That is a beautiful car you lucky beggar!

[BlitzE34]

pSyCoSiS said:

An excellent article.

Well done Paul - you have a stunning car!

The E34 M5 was always one of my dream cars, a dream which I realised around 4 years ago.

Purchased an E34 M5 3.6 in Macau Blue. An ex-Jersey car, with low miles.

Currently been off the road, but will be sorted within the next few months to use at my sister's wedding.

Question is: original 17" Throwing Stars (staggered fitment)

OR

A set of Genuine 17" Alpina, with 10j rears (removed from a B12 Alpina)?

10J rear dont fit, I believe they foul the trailing arm.

[pSyCoSiS]

BlitzE34 said:

10J rear dont fit, I believe they foul the trailing arm.

I had a set of Brock wheels with 10J rears, and they did fit.

however, with people in the back, the tyres did rub on the arches.

Didn't the E34 B10 Alpinas have 10J rear wheels?

[vetrof]

Depends on the offset. I had some Azevs on my car 10x7, et 13 I think. They fit fine.

[E24man]

pSyCoSiS said:

BlitzE34 said:

10J rear dont fit, I believe they foul the trailing arm.

I had a set of Brock wheels with 10J rears, and they did fit.

however, with people in the back, the tyres did rub on the arches.

Didn't the E34 B10 Alpinas have 10J rear wheels?

E34 B10's had 8.5x17 fronts, 9.5x17 rears. The 10x17's came from the E32 Alpina's which also used the 8.5x17 fronts.

[BMWill]

I adore these cars... And you're just on the other side of town! Shame there never was a RHD variant.
I'm contemplating an E34 in a year's time or so, so will keep my eyes peeled

[SuperchargedVR6]

Out of interest, did the M5 get the same steering box as the lesser E34s, or was it replaced with a rack/pinion or a modified box for better feel and fewer turns L to L?

I only ask as the common or garden 5 has no steering feel what so ever (and lots of positive camber, which doesn't help) and gets pretty slack too, as the miles pile on. I can't imagine BMW giving their best car the same setup?

I've been in a "Got £10K to spend, but don't know what on" predicament for months now, but have considered the E34/E39 M. Just scouting for info

[Loplop]

Like all E34's the M5 has the recirculating ball steering box, however the M5 has a faster ratio. Having driven both a 540i and a 3.8 M5, you can look at the M5 as having everything turned to 11. Can't say I noticed a lack of steering feel on the 540i, but saying that most of the cars I've driven have either been old dogs or EPAS cars, yet the M5 certainly 'talks' to you.

ETA: Driving the 540i is nice (though I've only driven an auto and not the 6 speeder) and you can tell it's quick and massively capable, but every single aspect of the M5 was addictive, even at sedate speeds.

Edited by Loplop on Wednesday 9th January 10:33

[toxicfrog]

E24man said:

toxicfrog said:

off_again said:

If only they did them RHD. Shame. Tried relatively posh estates with big engines, but I would go for something that is special. Merc E class V8's are great but lack the fiz. BMW M cars have the fiz but no real demand to make estate or 4 door models in RHD. Shame. Oh well.

There is 1 RHD about.........

E24man said:

There are two E34 M5 Tourings that were converted from lhd to rhd, one in Avus blue and one in purple - the purple one is presently for sale. There were/are also two rhd 525i Tourings that were converted to 3.6 M5 Tourings with a full powertrain transplant.

People tell me this but can never prove it.....so lets see it????

[vetrof]

toxicfrog said:

E24man said:

toxicfrog said:

off_again said:

If only they did them RHD. Shame. Tried relatively posh estates with big engines, but I would go for something that is special. Merc E class V8's are great but lack the fiz. BMW M cars have the fiz but no real demand to make estate or 4 door models in RHD. Shame. Oh well.

There is 1 RHD about.........

E24man said:

There are two E34 M5 Tourings that were converted from lhd to rhd, one in Avus blue and one in purple - the purple one is presently for sale. There were/are also two rhd 525i Tourings that were converted to 3.6 M5 Tourings with a full powertrain transplant.

People tell me this but can never prove it.....so lets see it????

Well, I'm 50% convinced. I've seen the Avus Blue genuine M5 conversion, it was owned for a while by Paul at Infinicar (he used to post a bit on m5board,they were breakers of some interesting cars - website doesn't seem to be active).
And the Daytona car is indeed for sale. http://www.barons-auctions.com/details.php?ID=5945

[E24man]

As noted above the two rhd 3.8 M5 Tourings are well known. I went and saw a purple [Edit: it might have been dark blue] 525iT to 3.6 M5 conversion many years ago in Glasgow. It was well done mechanically and had the correct bits and pieces except they had a left a rather faded and tired biege comfort interior in it - I was looking for a minty car so despite driving all the way there from Yorkshire I walked.

The other 3.6 M5 Touring is/was a white [edit: or light green] example which may not even still be around; I certainly haven't heard about it for years. There is also one solitary rhd M5 Touring in the southern hemisphere - a 3.8 again made from a 525iT; he posts sometimes on the M5board.

I have come close to buying three of the four at some stage but each time something else came along; the first time an M635CSi (instead of the Avus 3.8), the second time a minty fresh E34 540i Touring six speed (instead of the purple/biege 3.6),and the third time a stunning E39 B10 V8 Touring (instead of the purple 3.8).

Links:

Daytona 3.8 for sale link in posts above

Avus 3.8
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e34-m5-discussion...

White/green 3.6 and blue 3.6 mentioned
http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/31093-e34-m5-touring...

Edited by E24man on Thursday 10th January 20:06

[toxicfrog]

vetrof said:

Well, I'm 50% convinced. I've seen the Avus Blue genuine M5 conversion, it was owned for a while by Paul at Infinicar (he used to post a bit on m5board,they were breakers of some interesting cars - website doesn't seem to be active).
And the Daytona car is indeed for sale. http://www.barons-auctions.com/details.php?ID=5945

That's the first time I've come across the 'other' RHD conversion. Interesting that its for sale.

I'll confess now, I'm the same Paul and still own the Avus Blue one......:-)

[E24man]

toxicfrog said:

That's the first time I've come across the 'other' RHD conversion. Interesting that its for sale.

I'll confess now, I'm the same Paul and still own the Avus Blue one......:-)

You've had that a good few years then with many an attempt to part with it, what stopped you?