RE: PH Carpool: TVR Tuscan 2 LS7

RE: PH Carpool: TVR Tuscan 2 LS7

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spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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MrChips said:
seats, pics
I find the seats very comfortable even for extended time behind the wheel. I have a pad kit for them but I find I don't bother with it. Obviously they are much more supportive - I found myself having to hug the centre tunnel when pushing on with the standard seats which clearly wasn't ideal eek

Khalid (kman on here) has loads of pics, drop me a PM to let me know what you are looking for.

spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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El Capitano said:
mk1, standard carbon cans, weight
Topcats have also done a mk1 with LS7...

Can't use standard carbon cans as whole exhaust system is custom (runs a central silencer) and much wider bore.

Car is nominally heavier - which can be mostly put down to meatier g/box - so I'd guess the engines weigh roughly the same. At 7.0l, the new engine is mostly air anyway wink

spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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...a bit more footage for those that appreciated the sound (and the cans hehe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHxoXWeqFY&fea...

dinkel

26,954 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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RedSpike66 said:
dvs_dave said:
dinkel said:
Performance figures? 0-100 in 8-ish I presume . . .
Given that a standard Tuscan S with sticky tyres will do it in 8.08s (as tested by Autocar some years ago), this I'm sure will knock a chunk off that time.
Really ? 0-100mph in 8.08s ? That's a lot faster that TVR quoted isn't it for a 4.0S engine ??
So with the 550 brake in, what are expected figures? Oomph galore I expect. Can the chassis cope?

spartridge said:
It wasn't too clever when I originally picked up the standard car in 06 coming from the Clio Trophy, but fabulous now. Need to bear in mind I'd spent a number of years working on the handling before upping the power...shocks (3 different types), tyres (4 different types) plus different widths, different bushing, lots of different set-ups etc etc etc

It can keep a well driven Nissan GTR honest down the Bormio side of the Stelvio but the footage isn't suitable for a public forum wink
That is amazing as the GTR is AWD . . . scratchchin

spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Not that amazing TBH as the GTR is big and heavy and the TVR, any TVR in fact, is light and nimble so ideal for those sort of roads. Also the GTR was going first!

Interestingly he pulled away on the (relatively) straight bit where I think the weight (and the systems) provide a lot more stability and therefore confidence. That and the fact he is a very good (and brave!) driver...


PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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El Capitano said:
What's the difference in weight between the Speed 6 and the LS7?
Fully trimmed, the LS7 weighs 458 lbs. A Speed Six supposedly weighs 444lbs.

Simon, correct me if I'm wrong, but you still have the T5 gearbox, right? Or was it converted to a T56/TR6060?

spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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PascalBuyens said:
Fully trimmed, the LS7 weighs 458 lbs. A Speed Six supposedly weighs 444lbs.

Simon, correct me if I'm wrong, but you still have the T5 gearbox, right? Or was it converted to a T56/TR6060?
TKO600. Will drop you a PM.

pagani1

683 posts

203 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Well Done Simon, a labour of love. If Mr Smolenski hadn't binned the moulds we could all have bought one with that engine. A tragedy that the TVR story ended in ruins, was it English mismanagement or Russian? Very Sad but a great CarPool story. Now where's that Sagaris?

Don1

15,950 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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There are some lovely Sagaris around at the moment - Dom at TVR Power has a 5 litre one, a PH'er here has an insane LS7, mine is OK, Mr Varleys looks like it is being worked on as well.... Exciting times. We'll keep TVR alive!

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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  • Looks briefly at the Sagaris ads...remembers Im sane these days...*

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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spartridge said:
Not that amazing TBH as the GTR is big and heavy and the TVR, any TVR in fact, is light and nimble so ideal for those sort of roads. Also the GTR was going first!
Exactly. A 60 to 70% weight increase is hard to overcome.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Don1 said:
There are some lovely Sagaris around at the moment - Dom at TVR Power has a 5 litre one, a PH'er here has an insane LS7, mine is OK, Mr Varleys looks like it is being worked on as well.... Exciting times. We'll keep TVR alive!
Not exactly keeping TVR alive though is it. Its effectively making a kit car out of a TVR.

Fun, and certainly the owner of a car can do whatever he likes with his own car. Its certainly saved a few cars from the crushers, but a bit rich to say these cars are the pinnacle, as if we all agree.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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julian64 said:
Not exactly keeping TVR alive though is it. Its effectively making a kit car out of a TVR.
Arguably back to the manufacturers original roots. I know kitcar sends all the wrong messages to some, but there isn't any shame in clothing another OEM's powertrain.

... even the big manufacturers have to do it (Toyobaru etc).

How much can speed six TVR with a rubber ducked engine be picked up for? Unfortunatly there must be plenty ripe for this LS conversion.

Edited by FWDRacer on Wednesday 16th January 10:48

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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FWDRacer said:
How much can speed six TVR with a rubber ducked engine be picked up for? Unfortunatly there must be plenty ripe for this LS conversion.
I don't think anyone would do it on an economic basis: in your query say £10K for a Tuscan + £10K for 400bhp S6 or + £30K for a 550bhp LSx.

Don1

15,950 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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julian64 said:
Not exactly keeping TVR alive though is it. Its effectively making a kit car out of a TVR.

Fun, and certainly the owner of a car can do whatever he likes with his own car. Its certainly saved a few cars from the crushers, but a bit rich to say these cars are the pinnacle, as if we all agree.
How is using the original engine making it a 'kit car'? Only one of those in my list has changed the engine manufacturer. See below... 442bhp, with more horses on the way. (Sorry for the thread tangent Simon!)


Actually, how is changing the engine making it a 'kit car' in the first place?

spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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julian64 said:
Not exactly keeping TVR alive though is it. Its effectively making a kit car out of a TVR.

Fun, and certainly the owner of a car can do whatever he likes with his own car. Its certainly saved a few cars from the crushers, but a bit rich to say these cars are the pinnacle, as if we all agree.
I respect your opinion bit I think you misunderstand the ethos of the TVR brand and do a disservice to those who have worked on my car. Not something we'll agree upon so no point debating it.

spartridge

950 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Don1 said:
tangent
no problem Don!

You need to get that cam cover done in the same colour as the car though wink

Don1

15,950 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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hehe

WorAl

10,877 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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spartridge said:
PascalBuyens said:
Fully trimmed, the LS7 weighs 458 lbs. A Speed Six supposedly weighs 444lbs.

Simon, correct me if I'm wrong, but you still have the T5 gearbox, right? Or was it converted to a T56/TR6060?
TKO600. Will drop you a PM.
If you don't mind, could you please send me a similar email with the reasons behind the choice, rather than the T56 or other 6 speed models, eg T56 magnum etc?

Cheers thumbup

AyBee

10,535 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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TA14 said:
FWDRacer said:
How much can speed six TVR with a rubber ducked engine be picked up for? Unfortunatly there must be plenty ripe for this LS conversion.
I don't think anyone would do it on an economic basis: in your query say £10K for a Tuscan + £10K for 400bhp S6 or + £30K for a 550bhp LSx.
Is the conversion cost really that much? frown