RE: New BMWs shown at Detroit

[Beefmeister]

I can't wait to see a triple test in Evo between the M6 GC, RS7 and updated CLS63 AMG with the new 577bhp engine from the E63S.

Wowzer. The M6 wins on looks straight away, which is half the battle in this market.

Edited by Beefmeister on Tuesday 15th January 16:07

[RenesisEvo]

Munter said:

Is it me. Or will we soon be looking out of a 1" high slot window on the side of cars. I know crash regs have made the door skin/frame higher. But with chopping a bit of height there doesn't appear to be much glass left.

I've discussed this on here before. Steeply rising waistlines are a horrible styling blight on cars of the last few years, not to mention safety aspects from lack of vision to the sides and rear (but wait! We can offer you technology instead! Which then stops working out of warranty...) The Fiesta, Scirocco, GT86, i30/i40, Evoque, the new Clio, Megane (especially the coupe) - in fact a lot of recent cars from all across the board have gone for a high, rising waistline, leaving very little in the way of glass, especially at the rear of the car. I'd hate to be a passenger in a Scirocco or Evoque - imagine the kids squeezed in the back, unable to peer out the window. I have fond memories of trips as a child watching the world go by, this generation will be deprived of that (of course in this day and age they'll likely be too interested in playing with an tablet or phone). A side effect is a big swathe of metal making the rear wheel look tiny and lost. So they up the rim size to compensate...

Back on topic - 6 series looks great, GC better, M6 GC - stunning! If it's as nice to sit in as a Panamera, it suddenly becomes my top 'in production' car. Not sure how the prices compare but I suspect the BMW won't look too pricy against a Panamera Turbo. Not that I will ever be able to afford one.

[joemaxi]

Not a fan of these high waistline, tiny windows either.
Probably wont be long till we have another Specsavers spoof advert where someone posts a letter through the open letterbox size aperture that passes for a window.

[RenesisEvo]

Beefmeister said:

I can't wait to see a triple test in Evo between the M6 GC, RS7 and updated CLS63 AMG with the new 577bhp engine from the E63S.

Add a Panamera Turbo (S), and the new Maserati Quattroporte (523 PS) for one epic magazine feature.

[hachiroku]

I wish they'd take design clues from the old cars, like the Americans did with their muscle cars.

[RossP]

Oh dear... I already NEED an M4...

[m3sye]

B17NNS said:

BMW are making properly handsome cars again.

^^^^^^THIS

[Escort Si-130]

Looks good, they better start making good looking cars after that stty oversize sportback GT thing they did.

[gumsie]

will261058 said:

Im not either but thats what Market Research is for and I am sure BMW have done this.

So they didn't research the Z8? Just thought they'd give it a go.

[BBS-LM]

I like the new 4 design, looks good, but if these cars get any bigger you might as well get rid of the wheels and put them in the bloody water.

[V8 FOU]

Galsia said:

How original. *YAWN*

+1

And SUCH an original colour..... Resale silver, yet again.

[underphil]

that 6 is far too ugly for that kind of money.

BMW haven't made a pretty car since the 90s in my opinion

[edinph]

m3sye said:

^^^^^^THIS

Just proves " Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" eh. I think they are fugly! But then I think most German cars are now bloated and 'flashy'.

[5678]

Maybe I'm just a sucker for marketing and what people want to sell me, but fk me that 4 series looks awesome.

[Beefmeister]

V8 FOU said:

+1

And SUCH an original colour..... Resale silver, yet again.

So funny. When BMW launched the 6er GranCoupe in matte brown everyone said it looked rubbish. Cue M6 GC in silver and guess what? Yep.

[Chalk]

I really like that 4series .

[BS75]

RenesisEvo said:

Munter said:

Is it me. Or will we soon be looking out of a 1" high slot window on the side of cars. I know crash regs have made the door skin/frame higher. But with chopping a bit of height there doesn't appear to be much glass left.

I've discussed this on here before. Steeply rising waistlines are a horrible styling blight on cars of the last few years, not to mention safety aspects from lack of vision to the sides and rear (but wait! We can offer you technology instead! Which then stops working out of warranty...) The Fiesta, Scirocco, GT86, i30/i40, Evoque, the new Clio, Megane (especially the coupe) - in fact a lot of recent cars from all across the board have gone for a high, rising waistline, leaving very little in the way of glass, especially at the rear of the car.

It's not just a modern or crash-reg thing - Audi had go at making a car that felt like driving a letterbox 15 years ago.

...a nasty, ugly little girl's car they called the 'TT', which at the time got universal acclaim for its groundbreaking design despite having the dashboard and steering wheel arrangement from a Morgan.


Back to today - 4 Series looks the tits. Want.

[Baddie]

will261058 said:

That M6 GC is the best looking 4 door coupe by a country mile IMO and the 4 series is lovely too! I just hope BMW find a way for the M3 lineage to continue!

I think they're currently proving that the vast majority of (non-PH) buyers don't care two hoots for the historical pedigree of M. I'm not sure what differentiates the Germans anymore. How do buyers make their choice now?

[Baddie]

gumsie said:

So they didn't research the Z8? Just thought they'd give it a go.

Is the Z8 the only BMW since the original M3 now worth more than its asking price?

[Lemonyfresh]

New, but not exactly unexpected. Smart looking things, but in danger of becoming far too overstyled (nowhere near mer/audi levels of overstyling though!)