RE: Mucking about in the snow

RE: Mucking about in the snow

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DariusB

14 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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taaffy said:
2WD with proper winter tyres are very accomplished, but no match for a 4WD on winter tyres. The extra 2 driven wheels and increased ground clearance that a 4X4 will provide make them the weapon of choice.

Tyres make a huge difference though meaning that a 2WD on winters can match a 4WD on summer rubber.

Stunning backdrop for winter driving.
Not allways, in last couple of days Ive seen rs4 turning around in midle of a hill, where I had to stop in midle of that hill to let him turn around, and then I took of with no problems, plus we have the stopping issue, My stopping distance will be a lot shorter then a 4WD cars with summer tyres. So even if I had a 4WD car, I would still buy winter tyres.

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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DariusB said:
taaffy said:
2WD with proper winter tyres are very accomplished, but no match for a 4WD on winter tyres. The extra 2 driven wheels and increased ground clearance that a 4X4 will provide make them the weapon of choice.

Tyres make a huge difference though meaning that a 2WD on winters can match a 4WD on summer rubber.

Stunning backdrop for winter driving.
Not allways, in last couple of days Ive seen rs4 turning around in midle of a hill, where I had to stop in midle of that hill to let him turn around, and then I took of with no problems, plus we have the stopping issue, My stopping distance will be a lot shorter then a 4WD cars with summer tyres. So even if I had a 4WD car, I would still buy winter tyres.
I think you are both saying the same thing?

DariusB

14 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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He says 2WD with winter tyres match 4WD with summer tyres, I think that not allways..

DariusB

14 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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As promised, pictures from 2 years ago, same place, just this time we didnt get to our planned destination... Golf mk3 on winter tyres






Gridl0k

1,058 posts

184 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Golf MK3 TDI on winter tyres = my weapon of choice, soon.

Great pics.

taaffy

1,120 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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DariusB said:
He says 2WD with winter tyres match 4WD with summer tyres, I think that not allways..
RS4 would have been running very wide ultra low profile sports tyres making it a 414bhp sledge, so not really a good representation of 4WD and "summer tyres".

Put narrower section winters on it and it would be very capable.






DariusB

14 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Thats what I ment, that 2WD with winter tyres is not a match to 4WD with summer tyres in some cases, 2WD with winter ones are. Lets forget this, I dont want to start a never ending argument smile

taaffy

1,120 posts

240 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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DariusB said:
Thats what I ment, that 2WD with winter tyres is not a match to 4WD with summer tyres in some cases, 2WD with winter ones are. Lets forget this, I dont want to start a never ending argument smile
Hell of a winter playground where you live ...so jealous.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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DariusB said:
Thats what I ment, that 2WD with winter tyres is not a match to 4WD with summer tyres in some cases, 2WD with winter ones are. Lets forget this, I dont want to start a never ending argument smile
I'm sure I linked this, but it was as close to a test as I could manage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STaximkaQxo&fea...

DariusB

14 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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taaffy said:
Hell of a winter playground where you live ...so jealous.
Its about 20 miles away from where I live, and once you get there, there isnt any mobile phone signal so perfect place to get stuck wink

And thanks for a link Jon, Ive drove past a few 4WD cars like that and I know that 2WD with winters on is better smile

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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DariusB said:
Its about 20 miles away from where I live, and once you get there, there isnt any mobile phone signal so perfect place to get stuck wink

And thanks for a link Jon, Ive drove past a few 4WD cars like that and I know that 2WD with winters on is better smile
4WD with winters is better. Trust me. Driving past a 4wd car, or SUV means nothing. With 4wd you can engine brake with all 4 wheels on downhill stretches, and you have 4 tyres working for you going forward rather than 2. So, 4wd with winters beats 2wd with winters. I have driven both. 4wd is besterestest.

matt-ITR

892 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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TheHeretic said:
4WD with winters is better. Trust me. Driving past a 4wd car, or SUV means nothing. With 4wd you can engine brake with all 4 wheels on downhill stretches, and you have 4 tyres working for you going forward rather than 2. So, 4wd with winters beats 2wd with winters. I have driven both. 4wd is besterestest.
And without winters its worserest.

giblet

8,873 posts

178 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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So it goes -

4WD with winters
2WD with winters
4WD with summers
2WD with summers

agreed?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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matt-ITR said:
And without winters its worserest.
Indeed.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Agreed

pthelazyjourno

1,849 posts

170 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Hacked off with the snow now, it's too deep for my Elise. Lost the front number plate earlier, tore a hole in the diffuser on a chuck of ice in the road and keep catching the front clam on things hidden in the snow.

Could do with a higher ride height. Perhaps I need some comedy 18-inch wheels to raise it off the ground a bit!

giblet

8,873 posts

178 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Rather enjoyed driving a K11 Micra in the snow. Even on budger sunmer tyres it has been solid, unlike my Legend which is a tad too heavy. A K11 on winter tyres would be unstoppable

BadBanshee

650 posts

138 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Do you have to take winter tyres off once the snow has cleared up or do they work in the dry as well as summer tyres?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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BadBanshee said:
Do you have to take winter tyres off once the snow has cleared up or do they work in the dry as well as summer tyres?
They are designed for 7 degree C and below, snow, ice or dry roads, but I have run them later than that, and they were fine, 'to a degree'. They do feel 'squishier' then summer tyres in the dry, but they never exploded, or did anything strange.

Snowlife

86 posts

155 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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TheHeretic said:
They are designed for 7 degree C and below, snow, ice or dry roads, but I have run them later than that, and they were fine, 'to a degree'. They do feel 'squishier' then summer tyres in the dry, but they never exploded, or did anything strange.
We drove to Majorca in July 2010 on winters, high 30's air temp for 2 weeks & no issues