RE: Fiesta ST prices & specs revealed
Discussion
HighwayStar said:
Lol, good spot fella, the BRZ should be 15k was the argument but this is right on the money!
Seriously the ST looks decent value and will no doubt be a great drive, not for me though. Not any Ford, there is just something that I can't get past with them. It's not a badge thing, Mercs don't rock my world either.
I'm finding this bemusing, right on the money how? It looks like a squashed people carrier, its based on a cheaper car, it will have safe no thrills handling, a high centre of gravity and pedals that make heel n toe a chore. Sure it will have lots of grip and corner hard but that gets boring after a week.Seriously the ST looks decent value and will no doubt be a great drive, not for me though. Not any Ford, there is just something that I can't get past with them. It's not a badge thing, Mercs don't rock my world either.
hachiroku said:
I'm finding this bemusing, right on the money how? It looks like a squashed people carrier, its based on a cheaper car, it will have safe no thrills handling, a high centre of gravity and pedals that make heel n toe a chore. Sure it will have lots of grip and corner hard but that gets boring after a week.
Surly it's the cornering ability of a car that keeps you interested? You'll always want more power after a few weeks of owning a car, but one that can corner well will always keep you entertained when you come across a good piece of road!No comment on the heel and toe since I haven't driven a MK7 Fiesta. It would have to be VERY good to drag me out of my 250 Cup though....
IIRC the pedal spacing isn't bad at all in the mk7 Fiesta. In fact, I remember being very impressed at the driving position on the whole whenever I would get one as a courtesy car when my mk2 Focus RS was at Ford. It put the RS driving position to shame, the seat bases on the Recaros being very high and lacking adjustment.
hachiroku said:
I'm finding this bemusing, right on the money how? It looks like a squashed people carrier, its based on a cheaper car, it will have safe no thrills handling, a high centre of gravity and pedals that make heel n toe a chore. Sure it will have lots of grip and corner hard but that gets boring after a week.
It's a hot hatchback, safely covering ground while being a bit playful if you really want to push the limits of what a front wheel drive car can do is the way it deals with fun. It also performs the duties of daily shopping car that you can give your granny a lift to the shop in, that your wife would use for the school run, and that is fairly inconspicuous most of the time. Oh and in real life who actually uses heel toe on the road?
Chrisw666 said:
Oh and in real life who actually uses heel toe on the road?
People who think it's the only way you'll be a good driver. I don't even bother on track anymore, I'd rather lift off a little early, it's not a race, is it ?People will be advocating LFB on the road soon.
hachiroku said:
a high centre of gravity (...) it will have lots of grip
Why on earth would it need a lower CoG if it already has lots of grip ? Edited by nickfrog on Wednesday 23 January 12:10
nickfrog said:
Chrisw666 said:
Oh and in real life who actually uses heel toe on the road?
People who think it's the only way you'll be a good driver. I don't even bother on track anymore, I'd rather lift off a little early, it's not a race, is it ?People will be advocating LFB on the road soon.
Very small proportion of buyers pay the full OTR prices Ford and Renault and others tend to offer free insurance and better servicing packages, breakdown cover on smaller cars, for prospective new drivers makes for a reasonable argument for buying a new car vs old one over 3-5yrs. I shall be looking at one for grand kids 19th this summer and whoever works out best deal i go for over any badge weight or other irrelevant bs.
Jimbo. said:
Power.
Is.
Not.
Everything.
Jeez.
Yeeah, read the rest of my posts on the matter before trying to take the mick. Tube.Is.
Not.
Everything.
Jeez.
My car has got the same power (and is a lot heavier) and is perfectly adequate. I just think with the direction the Focus ST and the previous Focus RS's had gone, Ford should have pushed the Fiesta ST a little further.
The Clio may be 20k but I bet the equipment wont be all that bad and they obviously have the DSG box to cover. As stated previously spec a Fiesta up and with a mountune remap to match the Clio power your talking 20k and I bet with the current luck of Renault at the moment that you would get much bigger discounts on the forecourt(Mentioned in a previous post that there are currently no offers on the Focus ST) How much can you get knocked off a Megane RS nowadays?
But proofs in the pudding, the Fiesta might run circles round the Clio. Lets wait for the group tests. I may have to stow my tits yet.
macdeb said:
Well, for me even taking inflation into account 17k for a Fiesta? 
Not for me.
£17,545 will also get you a 5 door 1.6D with 95PS in Titanium X trim. To which you could then add another £2,620 of optional equipment. Not for me. To save you the maths that £20,165 for a diesel Fiesta with lots of toys - and half the power of the ST...
I've sold 1.6D Focuses for ~£25k recently. Free tax though...
The perfect replacement for my current Fiesta ST - more power (not that that's too important..), comparable MPG, much improved tech and it looks great; the normal Fiesta is the best looking supermini on the road! Bang on the money too.
I was considering the new Focus ST but don't really need 5 doors and think it just looks a bit fussy at the back.
Does it have the sound symposer like the focus?
I was considering the new Focus ST but don't really need 5 doors and think it just looks a bit fussy at the back.
Does it have the sound symposer like the focus?
macajc88 said:
Does it have the sound symposer like the focus?
Ford briefing said:
The new Fiesta ST delivers significant ride and handling improvements, through the implementation of the following features:
New Steering: Provides a quick response on centre and an even quicker response off centre delivered through:
Three ESP modes by switch
Engine: The refinement and exciting feel and sound delivered by the powerful 1.6 EcoBoost 182PS, 290Nm peak torque engine, which includes:
New Steering: Provides a quick response on centre and an even quicker response off centre delivered through:
- Short steering arm
- Steering angle is disproportionate to steering movement
- Modified front knuckle
- ST unique tyres and unique springs/dampers
- Sporty rear suspension
- eTVC applies brake torque on the inner wheel in a curve
- Cornering understeer is further controlled with additional software which leads to the ability of passing curves at higher speeds.
- Specially tuned and sits 15mm lower than standard Fiesta.
Three ESP modes by switch
- ESP ON: 100% intervention by ESP system
- ESP Wide slip mode: Allows for a more exuberant driving style with ‘some’ intervention from ESP
- ESP OFF: No intervention from ESP only recommended for professional drivers who are used to
Engine: The refinement and exciting feel and sound delivered by the powerful 1.6 EcoBoost 182PS, 290Nm peak torque engine, which includes:
- 1.6-litre Ford EcoBoost four cylinder petrol engine
- Combines high pressure direct injection, low inertia turbocharging, and twin independent variable cam timing.
- All aluminium design
- 0-62mph in 6.9 seconds
- 138g CO2
- Sound Symposer: Amplifies the throaty frequencies enthusiasts crave in performance cars.
Zwolf said:
macdeb said:
Well, for me even taking inflation into account 17k for a Fiesta? Not for me.
£17,545 will also get you a 5 door 1.6D with 95PS in Titanium X trim. To which you could then add another £2,620 of optional equipment. Not for me. To save you the maths that £20,165 for a diesel Fiesta with lots of toys - and half the power of the ST...
I've sold 1.6D Focuses for ~£25k recently. Free tax though...
macdeb said:
Good for you, I just wouldn't pay anything approaching £17k for a 'Fiesta'.
A lot of people wouldn't pay £60k for a "Three Series" either, but plenty do. The salient point of the above was that the ST isn't even the dearest Fiesta variant within its own range and you can pay a fair chunk more, for what to most of *us* (petrolheads, a tiny minority of the car buying public) would be considerably less.
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