RE: Chris Harris video: fast Volvos

[Robmarriott]

This car has massive appeal to me, I know I'll never afford one but still, there's something deeply cool about a quick Volvo.

I think the only car I'd like more than this would be a V60 Polestar, then the dog can come along too.

Next time it snows I'm going to gatecrash Bruntingthorpe in something fast and 4wd, looks like fun.

[AlexKing]

Jesus effing christ - the next person to post something along the lines of "£200,000 - you must be having a larf!" gets a smack upside their head. If you really cannot grasp the economics of mass production as has already been strenuously explained then there is no way of explaining the concept to you in words that you will understand.

Never mind. They're only making six of them and they've likely sold them already - they're not expecting the likes of you to buy one. I hope they do put something similar into production just so that there's a viable non-cockish alternative to ze germans. Then it would be c.£60, I would be happy, and the rest of you could still go back to your MAMGRSs.

[anonymous-user]

MJK 24 said:

£200,000 is just bizarre when you think you can have 500bhp cars from Audi, BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes for circa £75,000.

A gcse textbook containing info on manufacturing processes will now be issued to all who post this.

[T4RRR]

Here's a youtube vid of one of the sister cars at Gothenburg City Arena circuit, where the Swedish touring cars race, being pitted against an M3 and RS4.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA88iWj2lLk

[Axionknight]

What is so hard to understand about why these things cost so much? The companies who usually supply or manufacture equipment for these cars work in VOLUME...If you go to a firm asking for manifolds to be cast you dont pay the same rate if you want 50000 than if you want 5 and the same goes for pretty much every bit of kit on the car, use your loaf - mass production cuts costs in a dramatic way, how much do you think an RS6, M5 or whatever would cost if they were made to order one at a time??

[405dogvan]

gumsie said:

No it's not. That thing is over expensive period. I've seen lots of short runs for less money. A lot less. A team paid to create......please. Most of the work has already been done. Chassis development had already started with the 300BHP version etc etc.

You should call Volvo immediately - they've only been making cars for longer than you've been breathing, they don't have anything like your insight into it.

Whilst you're at it, call Ferrari and ask them why every new model costs vastly more than the outgoing one - FAR more than it's engineering could possibly justify - they might even tell you

[dvs_dave]

Volvo have got one of these on their stand at the Detroit motor show. A serious bit of kit in the flesh. Very cool. However when I was there nobody was even giving it a second glance. I think I must have been the only person in the whole place who actually knew what it was, or expressed any interest in it.

[dukebox9reg]

Polrules said:

Chaps, you can already get something similar to this from Volvo. If the Polestar can be likened to an RS4, then the S4 would be that standard T6 model...

3.0 straight 6 turbo, >300bhp & AWD, reasonable price too...

It's still not a Polestar. Its a volvo that doesn't handle or go anything like the S4/335. Something slightly cooler saying iv'e got a Polestar T6 rather than Volvo T6 for willy waggers. (I imagine)

[PaulMoor]

RenOHH said:

A gcse textbook containing info on manufacturing processes will now be issued to all who post this.

Hopefully violently and to the side of the head.

[Donkey62]

So these are like final working prototypes Polestar are selling? i doubt you be able to buy such a concept car from the Germans, Brits, Italians or even Koreans.

[Stedman]

Donkey62 said:

So these are like final working prototypes Polestar are selling? i doubt you be able to buy such a concept car from the Germans, Brits, Italians or even Koreans.

You probably are, for a price ( suddenly happens to all those people moaning)....it won't be called a concept car though!

[ZesPak]

I think the moaning about the price is because there's too much emphasis on the price in the video.

It should be better phrased as: as it stands, because there is no production, the 6 only cars are over 200k.

People get their knickers in a twist because at the price you could almost buy a C63, RS4 AND M3. But the price here is completely irrelevant, as they'll never release it at this price.

[dukebox9reg]

Not going to say who I work for but 2 prototype exhausts(not including the DPF, Cat etc) Cost 20k! This is why that Volvo costs 200K and I bet their loosing money on each one.

[Stedman]

dukebox9reg said:

Not going to say who I work for but 2 prototype exhausts(not including the DPF, Cat etc) Cost 20k! This is why that Volvo costs 200K and I bet their loosing money on each one.

It's a Ferrita on that car

[CraigyMc]

Aren't the polestar concepts being sold for €200K anyway?

That's £170K.

(If we are all going to be muppets and expect a run of 6 of something to cost the same as a run of 6000 of something, then at least lets get the price right)

C

[After_Shock]

It should have been FWD................

[MJK 24]

RenOHH said:

MJK 24 said:

£200,000 is just bizarre when you think you can have 500bhp cars from Audi, BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes for circa £75,000.

A gcse textbook containing info on manufacturing processes will now be issued to all who post this.

Perhaps you should read a GCSE textbook on marketing. I'm sure that this project of six cars is probably going to cost money rather than make it. I just feel Volvo would have been better to omit a price for the car as the bloke on the street will come to the conclusion that the car is getting on for three times the price of its rivals and indeed is much more expensive than a new Ferrari 458 Italia.

As a halo car I'm sure it'll attract some interest. Can't help but feel that a 400bhp S60 in the showrooms for circa £55,000 would do a lot more to promote brand image as they'd actually sell a few. They do a T6 S60 with 320 odd horsepower for sub £40,000, I'm sure they can get another 80 odd horsepower out for £15,000 and get back into the realms of reality ad affordability for some

[Greg_D]

MJK 24 said:

As a halo car I'm sure it'll attract some interest. Can't help but feel that a 400bhp S60 in the showrooms for circa £55,000 would do a lot more to promote brand image as they'd actually sell a few. They do a T6 S60 with 320 odd horsepower for sub £40,000, I'm sure they can get another 80 odd horsepower out for £15,000 and get back into the realms of reality ad affordability for some

absolutely, 320odd hp is a bit meh nowadays, a 3 litre turbo should pretty readily give up 400-450hp. At that sort of power and performance, it would actually start to loosen a few chequebooks whereas the present sporty range topper fails to excite the enthusiast market to any great extent.

It would definitely be my sort of car

[anonymous-user]

MJK 24 said:

RenOHH said:

MJK 24 said:

£200,000 is just bizarre when you think you can have 500bhp cars from Audi, BMW, Jaguar and Mercedes for circa £75,000.

A gcse textbook containing info on manufacturing processes will now be issued to all who post this.

Perhaps you should read a GCSE textbook on marketing. I'm sure that this project of six cars is probably going to cost money rather than make it.

About 4 posts up from the one I quoted.

RenOHH said:

Do you honestly think they're going to pocket £140k from each of these cars? I wouldn't be surprised to hear they've lost money on the project once they sell the 6.

It's not really about marketing, it's about how much I know a prototype car at that stage of a project costs.

Also I think if they do actually want to sell them, then the internet is the way to do it and so they need to tell people how much it costs.

Edited by RenOHH on Friday 25th January 18:04

[irocfan]

do like this rather than the unimaginative German brands - but £200k????