RE: You Know You Want To: Nissan 350Z

RE: You Know You Want To: Nissan 350Z

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zabba

2,130 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Big fan of these and considering a move to one from my Mk 5 Gti.

I've heard that power is the the first 3 gears is restricted to 75%, is this true? would this be across the rev range or just peak? I understand a remap can remove the restriction but guess would this reduce clutch life.


TameRacingDriver

18,098 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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As a slight side note, but 350Z owners are a grumpy bunch as well, when I've had MX5s, MR2s and even Clio Sports, I get acknowledged by other drivers (waves, nods, flash of the lights, cans of red bull thrown etc), 350Z drivers practically look the other way, they'll anything they can not to make eye contact. Miserable gits! hehe

big_boz

1,684 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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TameRacingDriver said:
Voguely said:
I looked at these a while ago and really like them but in the end was put off by the excessive insurance costs. Cheapest I could find was about £2k a year. I was paying less than half of that for both of my cars at the time combined (range rover and corvette). Must be too many people spanking these into trees somewhere!
Curious. I got quotes for a number of similar cars, and the 350Z was among the cheapest, cheaper than Z4 3.0, VX220 2.2, significantly cheaper than the S2000 and MUCH cheaper than any BMW wearing any kind of "M" badge (as in half the price).
I just did a quote....£2k and that is with a black box in the car and an RAC trackstar fitted....£3k without... almost exactly the same as an RX8 (im having a slack day at work)

32 8yrs NCD, 3points and 1 non fault accident....eh?

TameRacingDriver

18,098 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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zabba said:
Big fan of these and considering a move to one from my Mk 5 Gti.

I've heard that power is the the first 3 gears is restricted to 75%, is this true? would this be across the rev range or just peak? I understand a remap can remove the restriction but guess would this reduce clutch life.
Apparently so.

Mine is not remapped, and 4th and 5th feel almost as accelerative as 1st, 2nd and 3rd, which I have to admit, don't feel as strong as I thought.

V6Paul

171 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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zabba said:
Big fan of these and considering a move to one from my Mk 5 Gti.

I've heard that power is the the first 3 gears is restricted to 75%, is this true? would this be across the rev range or just peak? I understand a remap can remove the restriction but guess would this reduce clutch life.
Its limited to different amounts in the first 3 gears, something like: 75%, 80%, 90% (these aren't accurate). You can get this mapped out though yes, won't reduce clutch life unless you're letting it slip...

TameRacingDriver said:
As a slight side note, but 350Z owners are a grumpy bunch as well, when I've had MX5s, MR2s and even Clio Sports, I get acknowledged by other drivers (waves, nods, flash of the lights, cans of red bull thrown etc), 350Z drivers practically look the other way, they'll anything they can not to make eye contact. Miserable gits! hehe
I'm not miserable, I'd give you a wave if you lived anywhere near me :P

morgs_

1,663 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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zabba said:
Big fan of these and considering a move to one from my Mk 5 Gti.

I've heard that power is the the first 3 gears is restricted to 75%, is this true? would this be across the rev range or just peak? I understand a remap can remove the restriction but guess would this reduce clutch life.
True on the restriction and yes there is a well known and popular remap with UPREV you can have done. Usually done in conjunction with engine and exhaust modifications. I certainly haven't read or heard anything about reducing clutch life and it is a very popular modification that has been done for a while. Have a read here for some more info : http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/101-abbey-motorsport/

Guvernator

13,170 posts

166 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
Not that I disagree. But what other V6 rwd mass market coupe weighs significantly less? I'm struggling to think of any/many.
Your right, neither can I... which is why, despite the weight it's one of the cars on my hit list should I ever get around to my master plan for having an occasional use track toy in the future.

morgs_

1,663 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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V6Paul said:
75%, 80%, 90% (these aren't accurate). You can get this mapped out though yes, won't reduce clutch life unless you're letting it slip...

TameRacingDriver said:
As a slight side note, but 350Z owners are a grumpy bunch as well, when I've had MX5s, MR2s and even Clio Sports, I get acknowledged by other drivers (waves, nods, flash of the lights, cans of red bull thrown etc), 350Z drivers practically look the other way, they'll anything they can not to make eye contact. Miserable gits! hehe
I'm not miserable, I'd give you a wave if you lived anywhere near me :P
tongue out Can't say I've found that, have seen quite a few braving the elements the last few weeks and all have waved/flashed (oo-er) etc biggrin Likewise always a great bunch of people at the meets I have been to.

V6Paul

171 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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big_boz said:
TameRacingDriver said:
Voguely said:
I looked at these a while ago and really like them but in the end was put off by the excessive insurance costs. Cheapest I could find was about £2k a year. I was paying less than half of that for both of my cars at the time combined (range rover and corvette). Must be too many people spanking these into trees somewhere!
Curious. I got quotes for a number of similar cars, and the 350Z was among the cheapest, cheaper than Z4 3.0, VX220 2.2, significantly cheaper than the S2000 and MUCH cheaper than any BMW wearing any kind of "M" badge (as in half the price).
I just did a quote....£2k and that is with a black box in the car and an RAC trackstar fitted....£3k without... almost exactly the same as an RX8 (im having a slack day at work)

32 8yrs NCD, 3points and 1 non fault accident....eh?
For reference, I'm 25, 3yrs NCD, no points, just reinsured for £680 including aftermarket exhaust on the policy.

otolith

56,266 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Just had the insurance renewal through for the Z at £435. Will need to shop around a bit. (39 & 32, full NCD, no claims or points).

big_boz

1,684 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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V6Paul said:
For reference, I'm 25, 3yrs NCD, no points, just reinsured for £680 including aftermarket exhaust on the policy.
Swine, TBH i think its the Postcode lottery.

V6Paul

171 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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big_boz said:
Swine, TBH i think its the Postcode lottery.
Yep I guess so. According to this I'm in a band A area.

big_boz

1,684 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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V6Paul said:
big_boz said:
Swine, TBH i think its the Postcode lottery.
Yep I guess so. According to this I'm in a band A area.
Yep im an E*

Good link by the way, i shall keep that, looking for a new house at the moment and apparently our favorite is also in an E area albeit with no star smile Need to tell the wife its off the list!

TameRacingDriver

18,098 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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V6Paul said:
big_boz said:
Swine, TBH i think its the Postcode lottery.
Yep I guess so. According to this I'm in a band A area.
I'm in a band E* area, so pretty poor, mine is only £670 a year. 33yrs, 6 points in last 5 years, full NCB. Also the convertible is more expensive to insure than the Coupe which came out at £580.

It makes no sense.

ensignia

921 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Mine must be worth about £3k if that one's anything to go by!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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doogz said:
zabba said:
Big fan of these and considering a move to one from my Mk 5 Gti.

I've heard that power is the the first 3 gears is restricted to 75%, is this true? would this be across the rev range or just peak? I understand a remap can remove the restriction but guess would this reduce clutch life.
Can't say I ever noticed it, but the others commenting are talking about the 350, I was driving the JDM Fairlady Z version, which might be different in that respect.
Suspect it's the same, many modern/modern'ish cars use torque reduction in lower gears to be kinder to the drivetrain. Probably gearbox, diff and half shafts more than clutch though.

Examples I know of are the Ford Puma, my Camaro and the GT-R35.

Dynamic Turtle

112 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Awesome car, had my 2005 GT for over a year and it's a great all-rounder. Lovely exhaust note, not too thirsty (av 24mpg, driving it like it's supposed to be driven), no major engine or transmission weaknesses like you'd see on a Porsche, cheap to fix, very comfortable over our ragged roads (this is an under appreciated facet of the car IMHO) and it still looks great and garners positive opinions from everyone who see it, which is rare for a ten year old japanese car, no?

On the downside, the rear strut brace makes luggage loading difficult, the window motors can be unreliable and the front stone chips like a b*stard. Small issues in an otherwise great experience and superb value.

DT

Hair Flick

860 posts

137 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Kong said:
350Zs are great value these days, you can buy a facelift model with the 313bhp engine for £8,000 - that would be my choice.
I owned a UK 350z when they came out in GT spec with the Rays. It was a great car and we covered many miles in it without any issue and on occasion did south of France to the UK in one hit and it was extremely comfortable.

It was the 276bhp engine and it was great to drive, actually a quick car despite what many that have never owned one will say despite their "test drives". However, I took a GT4 out with the uprated 313bhp engine (prior to the face lift) and the engine whilst peakier actually revved so much more freely it was a very noticable difference so if I were go go for one I would look at the uprated engine first. BUT at 4k for a 350 like this I would actually go for that as the performance difference is not £4k worth of diference as the stock car was still very capable.

People moan about build quality but they wree good, the interior might not be the plushest with some cheap plastics but modern German premium brands have, in places, plastics of the same or lesser quality. When you are driving you are not looking at the centre console nor are you scratching on the top of the ash tray so you really don't notice as the car is very fun to drive.

Took one over an e46 M3 because I preferred the styling and the brakes were in a different league however it was the huge saving that also swung it as whilst the M3 was undoubtedly the better car, it wasn't a £20k premium better car.

They do have their problems such as clunking rear axel but then e46s like to eat their rear chassis.

Lovely car, would like another. Young lad up the road has one that looks identical to what mine did and all it has done is brought back happy memories of the car. Brilliant cars often overlooked by brand snobs or those that don't form an opinion based on experience.

Hair Flick

860 posts

137 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Mike Gill said:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/nissa...

would much rather fork out another grand or two and have the peace of mind with around 50,000 miles!
I am sure it has done 50,000 miles and then a lot more on top. Imports = notorious for clocking, would not touch an import version especially a very early one for the simple reason the UK Spec is much better. So your 2k more has bought a lower specficiation car with questionable mileage and much higher insurance premiums.

Dan_1981

17,409 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Needs to be a GT spec really doesn't it.

I also wish the convertible was so damn ugly.