SOTW: Jaguar XJ6

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tomoleeds

770 posts

186 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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i dont and never have watched coronation street, but remember from around 1998 one of the characters driving one of this model Jaguar, he was called Mike Baldwin, i think, Anyway because he was a wheeler dealer Jaguar refused to lend coronation street any more cars,as it spoilt the image.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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1968 top gear?

Merc executive cars at the time, yeah, but Jag were surely already a massive player from the 50s on

BMW were selling mid-size sporty saloons, their top model was a 'young pretender' at that point, surely

have we got some dates mixed up?

ziggy1024

38 posts

211 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Feel like I've got to contribute here - as that's remarkably similar to mine...

There is a long list of things that will probably go wrong with these, at this kind of age. The list in the OP is far from exhaustive, and tbh is missing some of the most important issues - diff bearings anyone? Not many of these issues will leave you stranded, and hey, at least the cabin's a nice place to wait for the AA.

Rust is an issue, just nowhere near what you'd expect from an old Jag. Think more along the lines of similar age BMWs. Yes there are rotten ones out there - just don't buy one!

Overall it's the kind of car that you'll forgive when it needs work - they're just really nice old buses.

Oh, and re-brushing the heater pump? Anyone with a spare hour, a soldering iron, a file and access to a model shop won't struggle with that. I'd be far more interested in the lack of comment on general mechanical condition.

J4CKO

41,516 posts

200 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Was out for a meal and my missus clocked one through the window and remarked on how impressive it looked, it was an R reg one, I joked that we should get one and she said it would be too expensive, I told her the car she had just seen was two grands worth, tops, probably nearer a grand, I told her I had always fancied a jag and she said get one, but I would have to sell my 944, I dont think I could do that somehow.

Good shed, and to those saying shed has run out of ideas, they cant design new models, go back in time and sell them, there were only so many cars designed and SOTW, as per the name is weekly, it has been running for a good few year, probably 250/300 sheds ?

Dominicc01

530 posts

167 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Christ alive! Why do so many people post such crap when they clearly haven't the first clue about the car they're talking about.

The X300 is, mechanically speaking, one of the most reliable cars you can buy. I had my 3.2 Sport seven years and loved every minute of it. When I sold it, it was starting to get a little tired, with the headlining ready to go, and needing dampers and probably bushes replaced. But it was a lovely place to be. Regular maintenance was relatively cheap due to the chain-driven engine. Major expenses were a replacement air conditioning compressor and stuck brake calipers.

To drive, it was lovely. Turn-in was sharp; it would slide very well when required, and was very controllable when not. The power is adequate - 216 bhp in the 3.2, with 322Nm of torque. With the 4 speed auto box it isn't quick off the line - 9.1s to 60 IIRC; but that's not what this car is about. Kick-down is great fun. The straight 6 makes a fantastic noise, and the torque gives more than adequate acceleration for most.

Here's mine:



Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

210 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Krikkit said:
pSyCoSiS said:
I wouldn't class them as 'slow'. Even the 3.2 V8 is surprisingly brisk for what it is.

The 4.0 V8 models have around 290 bhp, so have a fair bit of grunt under their belt.

The X300s have less power, but IMHO, they're still adequate...

But, totally agree. Fuel ecomomy is poor and they are not everyone's cup of tea...
The 6ers are 10ish to 60 (a bit less new, but the ravages of time and all that!), 3.2 8s are ~8ish, the 4.0's are sub-7. I've only experienced a 3.2 V8 one of the 300's being given the loud pedal (a friend's mum drove one for ages, but she never opened it up), and it went well enough.
I've owned 3.2 versions of both AJ straight six and V8 XJs. The difference in real world performance, refinement and power delivery of the two visually similar cars is incredible - the V8 is a much better car to drive than the 6 cyl one.

Dominicc01

530 posts

167 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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ziggy1024 said:
There is a long list of things that will probably go wrong with these, at this kind of age. The list in the OP is far from exhaustive, and tbh is missing some of the most important issues - diff bearings anyone? Not many of these issues will leave you stranded, and hey, at least the cabin's a nice place to wait for the AA.
True, but if you keep on top of it, nothing will be terminal. Mine only left me stranded once, when the starter solenoid died. Diff bearings did need doing, but that doesn't stand out as having been an expensive job.

garypotter

1,500 posts

150 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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top shed, still looks like a car worth alot more than shed money.

Krikkit

26,521 posts

181 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Jaguar steve said:
Krikkit said:
pSyCoSiS said:
I wouldn't class them as 'slow'. Even the 3.2 V8 is surprisingly brisk for what it is.

The 4.0 V8 models have around 290 bhp, so have a fair bit of grunt under their belt.

The X300s have less power, but IMHO, they're still adequate...

But, totally agree. Fuel ecomomy is poor and they are not everyone's cup of tea...
The 6ers are 10ish to 60 (a bit less new, but the ravages of time and all that!), 3.2 8s are ~8ish, the 4.0's are sub-7. I've only experienced a 3.2 V8 one of the 300's being given the loud pedal (a friend's mum drove one for ages, but she never opened it up), and it went well enough.
I've owned 3.2 versions of both AJ straight six and V8 XJs. The difference in real world performance, refinement and power delivery of the two visually similar cars is incredible - the V8 is a much better car to drive than the 6 cyl one.
I can imagine - I've never driven any of them (too young) but my Dad had an XJ40 3.2, which was fantastic, then a 3.2 V8 X308 which was nice, but didn't have full cow, then he moved up to an X308 XJR which was absolutely magnificent.

legalknievel

352 posts

197 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Cracking shed.

In fact, it just occurred to me that there are probably only two types of people driving these now.

1. Young men (usually shed fans) who want the fun of driving around pretending they're Arthur Daley.

2. Older guys who don't realise they are Arthur Daley.

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Krikkit said:
I can imagine - I've never driven any of them (too young) but my Dad had an XJ40 3.2, which was fantastic, then a 3.2 V8 X308 which was nice, but didn't have full cow, then he moved up to an X308 XJR which was absolutely magnificent.


The V8 XJR is a totally different animal. Rapid for what it is and not many things on the road would trouble you in that.

But, they need even more TLC and will be costly if things start to go wrong.

Again, try one whilst they are at these low prices...

Soon, they will either have gone to the scrapper (the bad ones) and / or the good ones will start appreciating in value.

grumpy52

5,574 posts

166 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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this one's mine,its a nice place to sit and waft about.

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Seems like a good shed in so many ways. If you are lucky enough to get a good one fantastic. Fact is at this price level it's probably worth more than this for spares alone. The two main issues, as for all bargain barges, will be fuel and insurance, both tend to be crippling in the UK.

AlecT

182 posts

209 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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One of the best cars ever made in my opinion, lovely to look at and sit in so much better and more chacterful than any German stuff, but I am biased having run Jaguars when I was young, XKs MK11s and E types when they were cheap used cars and the term Classic car hadnt been invented.
About 5 years ago I had an X300 XJR same colour as this, 300+ bhp fantasic car cost nothing in repairs, later swopped it for an X308 4.0 V8 drove a bit nicer I thought.
Cracking shed, someone is going to love it

fourwheelsteer

869 posts

252 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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Just have to add, I own an X300 Jaguar XJ6 4.0 Sport and it is superb. It was bought because I fancied the idea of a relatively inexpensive barge with the idea that I'd own it for a little while and maybe sell it for something more sensible. But the more I drive it the more I love it and now I just want to cherish it and keep it as long as I can.

So be careful, if you get a good one these Jaguars are seductive beasts.

JDMDrifter

4,041 posts

165 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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This is an omen ! I have been looking at these for my next car cloud9

f328nvl

507 posts

218 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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When I was young:
- Nottingham Forest won the European Championship, twice, and you had to actually be a Champion to enter it, not the runners up.
- If you went to France, there was a thing called minitel that you could use to electronically order a pizza, and;
- every year, without fail, the Jaguar XJ12 was voted best car in the world.

http://rjmghome.blogspot.co.uk/

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

162 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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pSyCoSiS said:
Alfa159Ti said:


So in summary, the cars are massive, heavy, slow and thirsty as hell, but with nice ride quality!

Not really my bag...
I wouldn't class them as 'slow'. Even the 3.2 V8 is surprisingly brisk for what it is.

The 4.0 V8 models have around 290 bhp, so have a fair bit of grunt under their belt.

The X300s have less power, but IMHO, they're still adequate...

But, totally agree. Fuel ecomomy is poor and they are not everyone's cup of tea...
290 bhp for the V8? Try 370 bhp and 0-60 in 5.3 seconds

My XJR is savage quick, velvet smooth and always gets appreciation from bystanders. I didn't buy it to be frugal and you are right, MPG is pretty shocking but if you buy one with your eyes open, it is possibly one of the best cars on the road. Exciting to drive and has a nice touch of class that the German barges cannot match...

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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fourwheelsteer said:
So be careful, if you get a good one these Jaguars are seductive beasts.
The 'Jaguar bug'... Once biten, forever smitten!

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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M666 EVO said:
290 bhp for the V8? Try 370 bhp and 0-60 in 5.3 seconds

My XJR is savage quick, velvet smooth and always gets appreciation from bystanders. I didn't buy it to be frugal and you are right, MPG is pretty shocking but if you buy one with your eyes open, it is possibly one of the best cars on the road. Exciting to drive and has a nice touch of class that the German barges cannot match...
I was talking about the N/A 4.0 V8...

Didn't mention the XJR!

And yes, I know they have 370 bhp, and are savage machines... I only just sold mine two weeks ago, and I am looking to get another one already!

that supercharger whine in b1oody addictive!