RE: Kia Pro_Cee'd - details
Discussion
MiseryStreak said:
The problem is I looked up the prices and it was £20,000, more expensive than the equivalent Focus or even Golf. This hot version is likely to be just as ambitiously priced, and without the brand image and history (important in this sector) .
2 things, I stand to be corercted but I very much doubt like for like that the Kia was more expensive than a similar Focus or especially the Golf...Also, brand image and history is is a moot point, this market sector covers nearly every demographic, those that think nothing betters a Golf and only a Golf will do because is Golf is best.... those looking for a bargain...those looking to be different and/or those just looking for a good VFM white good.
Agoogy said:
MiseryStreak said:
The problem is I looked up the prices and it was £20,000, more expensive than the equivalent Focus or even Golf. This hot version is likely to be just as ambitiously priced, and without the brand image and history (important in this sector) .
2 things, I stand to be corercted but I very much doubt like for like that the Kia was more expensive than a similar Focus or especially the Golf...Also, brand image and history is is a moot point, this market sector covers nearly every demographic, those that think nothing betters a Golf and only a Golf will do because is Golf is best.... those looking for a bargain...those looking to be different and/or those just looking for a good VFM white good.
The prices are on the right, the car I rented was a New cee'd '4' 1.6 CRDi Manual ISG - £20,695!
http://www.ford.co.uk/SBE/ConfigureYourVehicle/Con...
£17,145 for 1.6 Diesel Focus. Stick on all the options you want, still cheaper than the cee'd. Just as an example. Maybe the Kia is better, I was just shocked.
kambites said:
Mr Gear said:
Heavier car, more peaky engine, front wheel drive? That adds up.
True, but compare it to our Octavia VRS - the Kia has more power, is 100kg lighter, and is nearly a second slower to 60. MiseryStreak said:
Agoogy said:
MiseryStreak said:
The problem is I looked up the prices and it was £20,000, more expensive than the equivalent Focus or even Golf. This hot version is likely to be just as ambitiously priced, and without the brand image and history (important in this sector) .
2 things, I stand to be corercted but I very much doubt like for like that the Kia was more expensive than a similar Focus or especially the Golf...Also, brand image and history is is a moot point, this market sector covers nearly every demographic, those that think nothing betters a Golf and only a Golf will do because is Golf is best.... those looking for a bargain...those looking to be different and/or those just looking for a good VFM white good.
The prices are on the right, the car I rented was a New cee'd '4' 1.6 CRDi Manual ISG - £20,695!
http://www.ford.co.uk/SBE/ConfigureYourVehicle/Con...
£17,145 for 1.6 Diesel Focus. Stick on all the options you want, still cheaper than the cee'd. Just as an example. Maybe the Kia is better, I was just shocked.
kambites said:
TheBigUnit said:
It's a great looking car, as one might reasonably expect from Peter Schreyer, I just hope it's good to drive. This car will really go under the microscope, because the press will see it as a massive nail in the coffin of the European mainstream manufacturers if a Korean company can produce a car that is desirable.
I'm sure people said the same about the first truly competitive Japanese cars, yet the Europeans seem to still be going. Mr Gear said:
kambites said:
Mr Gear said:
Heavier car, more peaky engine, front wheel drive? That adds up.
True, but compare it to our Octavia VRS - the Kia has more power, is 100kg lighter, and is nearly a second slower to 60. renorti said:
kia's are getting better looking to be fair, and probably drive well too,but I was shocked too see how much they are!
To me the appeal of a Kia would be a low price, take that away and what are you left with?
A car that is competitive with other cars in its class. They are no longer cheaper, because they no longer have to make up ground from areas like quality, space, interior, and looks, as they did in the past. They are not the last word in driving pleasure, but when you look at what most buyers in the family hatch segment seem to be after - space, reliability, long warranty and low running costs - Kia provides a compelling product. To me the appeal of a Kia would be a low price, take that away and what are you left with?
Kia and Hyundai are really impressing me with their design. Ok, they're a bit generic, but at least they're more interesting than a Golf. I saw the new model Golf a couple of days ago - I had to really look to make sure it was the new one - and I honestly found it even more boring than I thought it would be from the pictures. Their advertising "Das Auto" is right: it's just a car with no passion or interest.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff