One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
Hol said:
If she pulled left and hit the kerb, then surely this means that their was only one lane?
There are plenty of dual carriageways / two lane roads with kerbs. Take any major cities ring roads as an example?https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.2275635,-1.20314...
backwoodsman said:
No, brake testing is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
It's still a brake test because you made her think you were braking. Why light up the brake lights if the desired effect was to let her think you weren't braking?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
thetrash said:
backwoodsman said:
No, brake testing is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
It's still a brake test because you made her think you were braking. Why light up the brake lights if the desired effect was to let her think you weren't braking?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
I often 'touch' the brake pedal, even if I have no intention of actively braking. There's a hill I drive down regularly which has a 30mph limit. 2nd gear holds the car nicely at 30mph without need for repeated braking, but unless I display the brake lights at the top of the hill, I'm often subjected to cars behind me closing right up tight. On a small number of occasions I've felt it necessary to gently squeeze the middle pedal (left foot) whilst keeping the accelerator constant, in order to gently remind a following driver that I feel he/she is too close. I've no problem with being overtaken, and if the road is sufficiently wide, I'll actively assist by keeping left, but whilst I'm travelling at or around the speed limit, or only prevented from doing so by traffic ahead of me, then no, I won't be moving over/pulling in to assist.
Only once have I confronted a tailgater after repeated 'suggestions' that he drop back were ignored. I trapped him behind me, with the kerb to his left and a traffic island to his right, slowing to a stop, hazard lights on and I got out and went to the rear of my car. I stood for a moment, with my best "puzzled" look on my face, staring at the recovery eye. When the fat tosser who'd been tailgating me wound down his window to demand to know "what the f
k the hold up" was, I mimed feeling for a rope, and told him I was looking for the towrope, since he was so damned close. His reaction? He gave me the 'coffee beans' after rolling his window up and locking his door 
Still. It had the desired effect as he suddenly had full recall of suggested safe following distances, and I wasn't bothered by him again along that road. Cool story bro? Yup, and absolutely true, too 
thetrash said:
It's still a brake test because you made her think you were braking. Why light up the brake lights if the desired effect was to let her think you weren't braking?
Because he wanted to get her to back off, had he lifted she likely would have run into him as she wasn't paying much attention, if he'd had to brake she likely would have run into him as she wasn't paying much attention. The fact she reacted badly is her fault entirely and shows just how little attention she was paying. Maybe an accident was prevented.Clearly his intention was to make her think he was braking, but to not actually brake, rather than "let her think you weren't braking".
Frankly your logic, or lack of, is bizarre.
backwoodsman said:
SV8Predator said:
AW111 said:
I find a quick flash of the brake lights (no actual slowing down) often seems to wake this sort of tailgater up, and they drop back a bit.
Never had a reaction like the one above.
Yes, the official term for this is 'brake testing' and is usually carried out by knobs.Never had a reaction like the one above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
Although, as always - you never see the crucial few seconds before the clip.
I'm coming down this slip road https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.835339,-3.931685... and up ahead at the roundabout I see a Hyundai i30 in the left lane (no signals, it's the warning sign of impending doom) and there's a lorry in the right lane indicating right. I can already predict what's about to happen.
Mr i30 continues round going for the 3pm exit from the left lane. As if that wasn't genius enough, he's also matching speed with the just behind the truck's passenger door. I hang back sensing the impending Darwin award.
Anyway, they get past the straight ahead exit and Mr Truck begins indicates left. I lose sight of Mr i30 at this point but i hear a thump and plastic scraping, but the trucks not stopping. To be fair the truck hasn't moved to the left lane yet either. Truck passes without incident and i see Mr i30 is stopped up the kerb. Must have realised they were about to become the filling in a metal and concrete sandwich. No damage on this side of their car so i assume they hit the other side.
I bet they think it was the truck drivers fault too.
EDIT: the Christian Salvesen truck in street view follows the exact path of Mr i30.
Mr i30 continues round going for the 3pm exit from the left lane. As if that wasn't genius enough, he's also matching speed with the just behind the truck's passenger door. I hang back sensing the impending Darwin award.
Anyway, they get past the straight ahead exit and Mr Truck begins indicates left. I lose sight of Mr i30 at this point but i hear a thump and plastic scraping, but the trucks not stopping. To be fair the truck hasn't moved to the left lane yet either. Truck passes without incident and i see Mr i30 is stopped up the kerb. Must have realised they were about to become the filling in a metal and concrete sandwich. No damage on this side of their car so i assume they hit the other side.
I bet they think it was the truck drivers fault too.
EDIT: the Christian Salvesen truck in street view follows the exact path of Mr i30.
thetrash said:
backwoodsman said:
No, brake testing is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
It's still a brake test because you made her think you were braking. Why light up the brake lights if the desired effect was to let her think you weren't braking?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E34jm2BHk
What I did, was show the lights, but not actually slow down.
A friend of my nephew posted this...
...of Facebook.
...of Facebook.
Me said:
Gloves so you don't get sweat, fat and acid seeped into the filler making it virtually impossible to paint or chemical burns to your hands? Nope.
Respirator so you don't get Lung Cancer, Asbestosis, chemical burns to your lymph-nodes, Lymphnedema or chemicals from the filler in your blood stream causing pulmonary heart failure, strokes, cerebral hematoma, aneurysms, various brain and muscular diseases, infections and forms of cancer? Nope.
Dust mask to stop filler getting into your Nasal Capillaries causing Nasal Cancer, various nasal infections or chemical burns to your nasal capillaries causing so much swelling your retinas detach rendering you permanently blind? Nope.
Eye protection so the surface of your eyes do not get chemical burns, infected or damaged by filler dust? Nope
Coveralls so your skin is not exposed to irritant chemicals that can, burn, cause permanent cell damage and if exposed to broken skin can present symptoms very similar to a flesh eating virus as the chemicals burn the skin between layers leading to skin grafts or possible amputation? Nope.
Very Healthy and Safe.
I know several sprayers and bodywork guys from the 80's and 90's who died in some very nasty ways. Respirator so you don't get Lung Cancer, Asbestosis, chemical burns to your lymph-nodes, Lymphnedema or chemicals from the filler in your blood stream causing pulmonary heart failure, strokes, cerebral hematoma, aneurysms, various brain and muscular diseases, infections and forms of cancer? Nope.
Dust mask to stop filler getting into your Nasal Capillaries causing Nasal Cancer, various nasal infections or chemical burns to your nasal capillaries causing so much swelling your retinas detach rendering you permanently blind? Nope.
Eye protection so the surface of your eyes do not get chemical burns, infected or damaged by filler dust? Nope
Coveralls so your skin is not exposed to irritant chemicals that can, burn, cause permanent cell damage and if exposed to broken skin can present symptoms very similar to a flesh eating virus as the chemicals burn the skin between layers leading to skin grafts or possible amputation? Nope.
Very Healthy and Safe.
This cock.
Typical sleeping lane hogger. Who then wakes up.
He's slowly drifting along lane 3 not even catching the lorry in lane 2. Perfect candidate for passing on the left but I don't. I'm gaining on him, the car behind him is gaining on him. Can't even keep his car in his lane.
Once the hold up behind him has cleared I pass on the right and he instantly adds 15 mph onto his speed and shadows every lane change in my blind spot as I move back to lane 1. He still can't keep his car in his lane.
Typical sleeping lane hogger. Who then wakes up.
He's slowly drifting along lane 3 not even catching the lorry in lane 2. Perfect candidate for passing on the left but I don't. I'm gaining on him, the car behind him is gaining on him. Can't even keep his car in his lane.
Once the hold up behind him has cleared I pass on the right and he instantly adds 15 mph onto his speed and shadows every lane change in my blind spot as I move back to lane 1. He still can't keep his car in his lane.
AdeV said:
9mm said:
Herd mentality. I hope you make sure they still give way to you exiting your seat if the direction of exit is in your direction.
I'm quite happy to sit there reading my book until the queues have died right down; the exception would be if I'm in one of the front 2 rows, then I might make a dash for it. These days, there seems to be a constant and near endless queue for immigration, however, so even legging it off the front of the plane makes sod all difference to the tedious business that is getting through an airport.Ho hum, one day I'll be wealthy enough to travel 1st class, and all these tediums will be nothing more than a fading memory...
Queues? never stood in one.
Boarding? at my convenience,through my own door.
Immigration at destination? first off the plane.
Immigration into the UK? special pass.
Fourty winks during the flght? had my own bed.
Waiting around? never happened
I could go on. It was a different world.
But now it has all changed for me.I no longer turn left on boarding,I scuttle very quickly right down the back next to the baby,behind a fully reclined seat, next to the person with sharp elbows.
I could go on. It is a different world.
WD39 said:
The best perk of my job was first class travel.
Queues? never stood in one.
Boarding? at my convenience,through my own door.
Immigration at destination? first off the plane.
Immigration into the UK? special pass.
Fourty winks during the flght? had my own bed.
Waiting around? never happened
I could go on. It was a different world.
But now it has all changed for me.I no longer turn left on boarding,I scuttle very quickly right down the back next to the baby,behind a fully reclined seat, next to the person with sharp elbows.
I could go on. It is a different world.
Does that make you think 'knob' though? Would just make me think 'sQueues? never stood in one.
Boarding? at my convenience,through my own door.
Immigration at destination? first off the plane.
Immigration into the UK? special pass.
Fourty winks during the flght? had my own bed.
Waiting around? never happened
I could go on. It was a different world.
But now it has all changed for me.I no longer turn left on boarding,I scuttle very quickly right down the back next to the baby,behind a fully reclined seat, next to the person with sharp elbows.
I could go on. It is a different world.
t; reality'.I've started travelling along the M8 between Glasgow and Edinburgh, in the rush hour during the morning. It is a constant stream of traffic which gets quite congested at certain junctions along the way. You have a choice - sit in L2 and constantly accelerate/brake for 30 miles or cruise along in L1 around 40-50 mph but make steady progress. Both options get you to Edinburgh around the same time.
I've chosen option 2, much more relaxing. But the 'knob' element of the story comes when I'm cruising at say 50mph and I come level with a car in L2 which is in a braking section (for L2). The amount of people in L2 who will then accelerate to match my speed and close any gap is staggering. Despite the fact that many cars will have seen me in their mirrors for several miles, they somehow think that I'm going to use this opportunity to pass them and cut into a slower L2 in front of them!! Just another examplse of the 'how dare you overtake me' brigade!
I just openly laugh now, especially if I catch them glancing over. I've made a game of counting how many people do it. My record so far is 15 for one journey
I've chosen option 2, much more relaxing. But the 'knob' element of the story comes when I'm cruising at say 50mph and I come level with a car in L2 which is in a braking section (for L2). The amount of people in L2 who will then accelerate to match my speed and close any gap is staggering. Despite the fact that many cars will have seen me in their mirrors for several miles, they somehow think that I'm going to use this opportunity to pass them and cut into a slower L2 in front of them!! Just another examplse of the 'how dare you overtake me' brigade!
I just openly laugh now, especially if I catch them glancing over. I've made a game of counting how many people do it. My record so far is 15 for one journey
The knob in an Audi Estate this morning who was turning left at Damflask as I approached the road to turn right, waiting until I stopped in the road then with 2 car lengths to the junction indicated left. As the road turns back on itself I then had to crawl along behind, drinking in the diesel fumes of your poverty chariot struggling to get up the hill instead of being long-gone had you indicated earlier.
Thanks a lot! If you are going to leave it that late to indicate then you are defeating the object, to indicate your intent. You may as well not bother!
Hardly a case of 'how dare you overtake me' brigade since they should not be undertaking (grey area possibly covered by the "one lane moving faster than the other" get out of jail free clause )
Not condoning the closing of gaps like you describe, just adding for balance.
You should drive in lane 1 unless overtaking, when does this become two lanes of traffic moving at different speeds negating the need? Since many stay in the same lane regardless of traffic this point seems to have become blurred.
Thanks a lot! If you are going to leave it that late to indicate then you are defeating the object, to indicate your intent. You may as well not bother!
bairn7 said:
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I've chosen option 2, much more relaxing. But the 'knob' element of the story comes when I'm cruising at say 50mph and I come level with a car in L2 which is in a braking section (for L2). The amount of people in L2 who will then accelerate to match my speed and close any gap is staggering. Despite the fact that many cars will have seen me in their mirrors for several miles, they somehow think that I'm going to use this opportunity to pass them and cut into a slower L2 in front of them!! Just another examplse of the 'how dare you overtake me' brigade!
Thing is lots do undertake to try to get ahead, which then causes the cars behind to drop back and impedes their journey. Used to see it a lot when I did a lot of motorway driving.I've chosen option 2, much more relaxing. But the 'knob' element of the story comes when I'm cruising at say 50mph and I come level with a car in L2 which is in a braking section (for L2). The amount of people in L2 who will then accelerate to match my speed and close any gap is staggering. Despite the fact that many cars will have seen me in their mirrors for several miles, they somehow think that I'm going to use this opportunity to pass them and cut into a slower L2 in front of them!! Just another examplse of the 'how dare you overtake me' brigade!
Hardly a case of 'how dare you overtake me' brigade since they should not be undertaking (grey area possibly covered by the "one lane moving faster than the other" get out of jail free clause
)Not condoning the closing of gaps like you describe, just adding for balance.
You should drive in lane 1 unless overtaking, when does this become two lanes of traffic moving at different speeds negating the need? Since many stay in the same lane regardless of traffic this point seems to have become blurred.
Does it have to be Vehicular Knobs?
If not can I nominate the Woman in the Sandwich shop in Crowthorne who had a good old laugh at the disabled person outside who was being loud. Yes isn’t it funny that someone is not in control of their faculties. And to answer you not so quietly mouthed question to your giggling mate.. Why should'nt they be out at lunchtime when it’s busy.
Annoyed how upset I was by this episode, I was so shocked by what she said I just stood there like a lemon..
If not can I nominate the Woman in the Sandwich shop in Crowthorne who had a good old laugh at the disabled person outside who was being loud. Yes isn’t it funny that someone is not in control of their faculties. And to answer you not so quietly mouthed question to your giggling mate.. Why should'nt they be out at lunchtime when it’s busy.
Annoyed how upset I was by this episode, I was so shocked by what she said I just stood there like a lemon..
just read the article and watch the vid - knobishness of the highest order!
http://www.aol.co.uk/article/2014/09/25/car-narrow...
http://www.aol.co.uk/article/2014/09/25/car-narrow...
Driving around the Eu this summer, the wife and I devised a bad driver category.
Mildly bad driving, not looking etc, a knob.
Worse, 2 knobs or a double knobber, 3 for bad driving or just head up arseness, triple knobber BUT if it was laughably bad or real dangerous...straight to wker.
Mildly bad driving, not looking etc, a knob.
Worse, 2 knobs or a double knobber, 3 for bad driving or just head up arseness, triple knobber BUT if it was laughably bad or real dangerous...straight to w
ker.mikal83 said:
Driving around the Eu this summer, the wife and I devised a bad driver category.
Mildly bad driving, not looking etc, a knob.
Worse, 2 knobs or a double knobber, 3 for bad driving or just head up arseness, triple knobber BUT if it was laughably bad or real dangerous...straight to wker.
half the time you can short-circuit this and just check if they have a Belgian plate Mildly bad driving, not looking etc, a knob.
Worse, 2 knobs or a double knobber, 3 for bad driving or just head up arseness, triple knobber BUT if it was laughably bad or real dangerous...straight to w
ker.Knobs this week: Watching "Motorway - Life in the fast lane" ep 3, the knobs who throw things at the traffic wombles. Yes, they're wombles, but I've now got a much better idea of what they do (and don't) do. And ultimately, if they're making a travelling road block, it's not just for the entertainment value.
2nd knob-ette; the shrew-faced woman who shoved in front of me in the massive queues @ Kings Cross station for LUL the other day (busy platforms, apparently, meant that access to the deep level tubes was restricted, hence a 1/2 mile long queue. Upon taking her to task for her queue-jumping ways, she tried verbal abuse, I managed to send her on her way without actually resorting to violence or swearing; but really, why do people do it?
2nd knob-ette; the shrew-faced woman who shoved in front of me in the massive queues @ Kings Cross station for LUL the other day (busy platforms, apparently, meant that access to the deep level tubes was restricted, hence a 1/2 mile long queue. Upon taking her to task for her queue-jumping ways, she tried verbal abuse, I managed to send her on her way without actually resorting to violence or swearing; but really, why do people do it?
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