One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2

[AvonRise]

iva cosworth said:

He was being an arse and if an RST can't take a tired RS1600i round Donington then he needs help.

I wasn't weaving or driving in the centre of the track.

There isn't a massive gulf in performance there - especially if his corner exit was compromised by yours.

If he was close enough to feel that he needed to flash you, it probably means he'd been getting frustrated by non-compliance from a slower car.

[Hol]

I seem to have followed a 'standard pattern' where I started off in my road cars, which got progressively faster, more extreme and more expensive as I got older until the point where I noticed that the people in cheap second 'track day only' cars were having just as much fun, if not more as they didn't have XX000's at stake, if an accident happened.

So now I have a cheap track /second road car and my daily stays at home.

[Hol]

I stole this from the GTR forum, but it is so true.


You DO get people who think fast car = fast driver.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b7iUKaPlBl8

[FBP1]

iva cosworth said:

I was on track at RSOC National day must be 12 years ago in my RS1600i,not the fastest car out there or the best

driver but I got headlamps flashed at me by a RS Turbo on track because he wanted to pass.

If he was so quick and awesome driver,just overtake.

We had a "discussion" in the pits afterwards.

Enjoyable day for enthusiasts spoilt by that knob.

If someone catches you from behind then he is the faster driver and the etiquette is to lift on the next straight to let him past, especially when you were both in relatively underpowered cars.

Have a word with yourself in the pits next time.

[James B]

FBP1 said:

iva cosworth said:

I was on track at RSOC National day must be 12 years ago in my RS1600i,not the fastest car out there or the best

driver but I got headlamps flashed at me by a RS Turbo on track because he wanted to pass.

If he was so quick and awesome driver,just overtake.

We had a "discussion" in the pits afterwards.

Enjoyable day for enthusiasts spoilt by that knob.

If someone catches you from behind then he is the faster driver and the etiquette is to lift on the next straight to let him past, especially when you were both in relatively underpowered cars.

Have a word with yourself in the pits next time.

Whilst this thread probably isn't the place to continue the discussion I feel I must agree with the view that you, the RS1600i driver, were in the wrong. I am a relatively experienced trackday driver and my last track car was a reasonably 'mid-field' spec Impreza. I was therefore encountering drivers and vehicles of varying quality and performance and would often let someone past if I felt their presence in my mirror would hamper my progress by diverting my concentration on the road ahead. Had you been racing in a proper organized event then you did a commendable job of holding off an RST in your RS1600i but as it was a trackday all you created was some aggro in the pits and put yourself at risk of being on the receiving end on a no hoper dive up the inside of a tight corner a la Mr GTR in the posts above.

I'll bet your car has taken a lot of effort to get working well and looking good, it would be a shame if some donkey wrote it off; particularly when things like fully comprehensive insurance cover aren't necessarily a given.

Good effort on tracking the RS though. I used to have an RS2000 4x4 but had cleaned it to within an inch of its life so never had the balls to track it.

[alpha channel]

Not knobbish behaviour on the part of the driver (a learner, did everything right) but on the part of the idiot that was teaching them, the placing of the L plate in particular. In this instance smack bang in the middle of the rear window of the Mini (BMW era) they're in, nicely blocking any kind of view from the rear view mirror. Why the teacher? they should have had more common sense and have relocated it if was the learner that put it there.

[The Don of Croy]

Liquid Knight said:

There are as many bad cyclists as bad drivers. I wear a yellow jacket, have blue and orange trousers, a orange and reflective bag with home made sign on the back...

Here we go...my copy of the Highway Code features that blue sign and it means "Route to be used by pedal cycles only", so if you're displaying this on a road then that's knobbish (if it's a highway for mixed traffic and not a dedicated cycle track).

[e21Mark]

BT.

Rang 3 weeks ago and was given an appointment, for them to install a new line between 8am and 1pm yesterday. Repeated emails and texts telling me to be sure to stay in ALL day.

Waited all day yesterday and nothing. Not even a call to say no-one is coming. Eventually, after 27 minutes on my mobile, I am told someone will ring me in 2 days to explain and make another appointment.

My piss is thoroughly boiled.

[Tyre Tread]

e21Mark said:

BT.

Rang 3 weeks ago and was given an appointment, for them to install a new line between 8am and 1pm yesterday. Repeated emails and texts telling me to be sure to stay in ALL day.

Waited all day yesterday and nothing. Not even a call to say no-one is coming. Eventually, after 27 minutes on my mobile, I am told someone will ring me in 2 days to explain and make another appointment.

My piss is thoroughly boiled.

I had a similiar experience when we 'had to' upgrade as they were killing off our existing service.

They didn't turn up twice, then told me all was sorted. It wasn't. Then arranged a third appointment which they turned up to - late.

[e21Mark]

Tyre Tread said:

e21Mark said:

BT.

Rang 3 weeks ago and was given an appointment, for them to install a new line between 8am and 1pm yesterday. Repeated emails and texts telling me to be sure to stay in ALL day.

Waited all day yesterday and nothing. Not even a call to say no-one is coming. Eventually, after 27 minutes on my mobile, I am told someone will ring me in 2 days to explain and make another appointment.

My piss is thoroughly boiled.

I had a similiar experience when we 'had to' upgrade as they were killing off our existing service.

They didn't turn up twice, then told me all was sorted. It wasn't. Then arranged a third appointment which they turned up to - late.

Quick check of BT facebook page and seems par for the course. If there was a choice, I'd simply go elsewhere.

[scarble]

Come to Virgin, their service is equally s**t but you rarely-if-ever need it

[Swanny87]

e21Mark said:

Tyre Tread said:

e21Mark said:

BT.

Rang 3 weeks ago and was given an appointment, for them to install a new line between 8am and 1pm yesterday. Repeated emails and texts telling me to be sure to stay in ALL day.

Waited all day yesterday and nothing. Not even a call to say no-one is coming. Eventually, after 27 minutes on my mobile, I am told someone will ring me in 2 days to explain and make another appointment.

My piss is thoroughly boiled.

I had a similiar experience when we 'had to' upgrade as they were killing off our existing service.

They didn't turn up twice, then told me all was sorted. It wasn't. Then arranged a third appointment which they turned up to - late.

Quick check of BT facebook page and seems par for the course. If there was a choice, I'd simply go elsewhere.

It's what happens when a company has no direct competition in the ADSL/Fibre to the curb home broadband market. I know there are other companies that sell broadband like PlusNet etc... but at the end of the day it's a BT product whether you like it or not and you pay a BT line rental on such broadband products. If the line goes tits up you just get palmed off to BT customer services. I do admit that, for example, PlusNet are really good at dealing with customers with issues on their side of the line and you do get a better deal. You can see why they don't give a toss about customer service as there are no customers to lose.

Unless you go to Virgin Media of course, but not everyone has access to that!

[Liquid Knight]

The Don of Croy said:

Liquid Knight said:

There are as many bad cyclists as bad drivers. I wear a yellow jacket, have blue and orange trousers, a orange and reflective bag with home made sign on the back...

Here we go...my copy of the Highway Code features that blue sign and it means "Route to be used by pedal cycles only", so if you're displaying this on a road then that's knobbish (if it's a highway for mixed traffic and not a dedicated cycle track).

I take being seen as a priority over being seen as a knob. My bag isn't big enough for the classic caution triangle with black bike in the middle.

[AdeV]

scarble said:

Come to Virgin, their service is equally s**t but you rarely-if-ever need it

Ordered Virgin Business Internet. Expected delivery time 2-6 weeks (6 if they needed to do "civils").

3 weeks later a bloke showed up, said they needed to "do civils, that'll be 6-8 weeks mate".

8 weeks pass, civils finally get done.

2 more weeks. Apparently they're going to install it on the 30th October. A full quarter, just to install a router, and wiggle some fibres about.

Oh, and they've never once given us any kind of update. Every single stage of the way, we've had to phone them to find out what's happening. Typically that means 15 mins of hold music.

KNOBS!


I'm considering cancelling the order on the 29th on account of it being too long.... unfortunately, the alternatives are all appalling. BT Infinity has been due here for 2 years, and is now, er, 2 years away (probably never, more like). I wouldn't mind, but we're not exactly in the boonies here.

[m8rky]

Tiguankers. That is all,

[AlexRS2782]

The 2 bellends from Enterprise Car Hire that I had the pleasure of finding on the road when i was out this afternoon in Camberley. Essentially the 2 fktards were racing each other in a pair of 64 reg Astras, one white, one black. I'm assuming they were in the process of going back to their local car hire location, or delivering one of the cars to an unsuspecting customer.

Either way their exploits included:

The driver of the white car nearly rear ending a learner driver who was already on the Ravenswood r/bout as he entered the r/bout far too quickly.

Attempting to drag race his friend in the black Astra up the Crawley Hill which resulted in the one in the white car nearly going head first into a Megane that was coming down the hill towards them. Had it not been for the lady in the Megane slamming on the brakes when she did they would have hit head on.

Shortly after the one in the white car nearly ran over a mother with pushchair who was crossing the road near the Park Road Doctors surgery.

To top it off both of them must have pushed 50+ in a 30 zone heading through the back roads of Camberley towards the A30 as I couldn't keep up with them.

Shame I don't have a dashcam in the 205 as otherwise that footage would have come in useful. Either way both reg plates have now been reported to local policing who say they will follow up

[stitchface]

The suicidal passat-driving who tried to overtake me just now on my way home from work.

I was doing just over the 50 limit when y bks decides he just has to get home to his microwave dinner for one quicker than I am allowing him. OK I think, just wait for that oncoming van to pass and you can get past me safely if you're nippy. But no, that's not good enough, he wants to go now!

Which is fine, if he had a warp drive or some sort of rocket-assisted take-off apparatus. But he didn't. He's got a fking 2 litre diesel.

And so, as his headlights reach roughly my elbow the three of us realise that actually, this isn't going to end so well.

I slam on; the van slams on; rep boy slams on. We all stop safely, luckily.

The prick then proceeds to follow me too closely for a few more miles (although interestingly there was one stop at a traffic light where the chickenst left ~30m gap between us) before flashing ME as I take my turning.

[m8rky]

m8rky said:

Tiguankers. That is all,

having now calmed down after nearly being run off the road by a sily cow reading her phone coming around a bend two thirds on my side of the road, I have had quite a week of Tiguan fk nuggets, including a red light jumper and one making three lanes out of two lanes and blocking a roundabout exit off a busy road. WTF are these people on?

[snoopy25]

The prick on the motorbike who pulled up alongside me at the lights in the right hand turn lane at a crossroads on Walworth Road in Camberwell.

Sir you showed sheer brilliance in the fact that you thought i was turning left at said crossroads (clearly his observation skills weren't great as i wasn't indicating to go left.....) and then proceeded, when lights went green to apparently go left as well round the outside of my car........this would of been fine if I was turning left...But i was going straight fking on!!!!

You were millimetres from going under my wheels and appearing as another news story on the 6 o'clock news! Absolute bellend who didnt even look behind to see why I was giving him a long blast of the car horn as i had to jump on the brakes!!

Suicidal !

[thismonkeyhere]

stitchface said:

The suicidal passat-driving who tried to overtake me just now on my way home from work.

I was doing just over the 50 limit when y bks decides he just has to get home to his microwave dinner for one quicker than I am allowing him. OK I think, just wait for that oncoming van to pass and you can get past me safely if you're nippy. But no, that's not good enough, he wants to go now!

Which is fine, if he had a warp drive or some sort of rocket-assisted take-off apparatus. But he didn't. He's got a fking 2 litre diesel.

And so, as his headlights reach roughly my elbow the three of us realise that actually, this isn't going to end so well.

I slam on; the van slams on; rep boy slams on. We all stop safely, luckily.

The prick then proceeds to follow me too closely for a few more miles (although interestingly there was one stop at a traffic light where the chickenst left ~30m gap between us) before flashing ME as I take my turning.

Funnily enough, I had a recent Passat overtaking experience.

Car behind me, obviously desperate to get by, but misses numerous overtake opportunities (I am trundling along at this point, doing around 55 in a 60).

Decides to overtake after we've just exited a roundabout, where I am obviously (one would have thought it was obvious, anyway) going to be accelerating back up to cruising speed.

So, instead of passing me when I am trundling, and with plenty of space to get past, he waits until he has to pit the mighty acceleration of his diesel Passat against my acceleration, in the face of an oncoming artic.

By the nature of his decision, I'd rather assumed (it was dark, could see his headlights but not type of car) that I was about to be cleanly passed by a saucy German beast with much more power than me, but only when he was sat alongside me, overtaking at a mere trickle, and staring death in the face, did I realise that I would have to take action to save his neck.

So, I brake, Artic brakes and moves over almost onto the grass, he just gets through, and continues merrily on his way. I hope, slightly embarassed, but more likely oblivious, or - as with your Passat man - somehow blaming me or the artic for the situation.

Nutter/Idiot/Moron etc