One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2
Discussion
percymk4 said:
People who can't just accept they were in the wrong and apologise.
Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "f
k off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?"
"You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and fk everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.
Knob.
They need no excuse for a disagreement.Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "f
k off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?""You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and f
k everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.Knob.
WD39 said:
percymk4 said:
People who can't just accept they were in the wrong and apologise.
Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "fk off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?"
"You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and fk everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.
Knob.
They need no excuse for a disagreement.Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "f
k off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?""You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and f
k everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.Knob.
percymk4 said:
People who can't just accept they were in the wrong and apologise.
Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "fk off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?"
"You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and fk everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.
Knob.
I'm not a hard man or a fighter, but,Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "f
k off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?""You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and f
k everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.Knob.
as soon as he said "better hope I don't see you around here again mate", I would of been out of my car and just said, "i'm here now, do what you have to do".
TheAllSeeingPie said:
OpulentBob said:
Easy tiger. It wasn't aimed at you. In fact I agree with what you wrote. Its so the knee-jerkers can do a little research and consider other possibilities rather than immediately come out with "deliberately trying to damage my car", "won't be happy until someone's dead", etc.
Aah sorry I confused your use of "you" with the "some people" that you probably meant? Nevermind, it was quite interesting reading that you posted, although a little dry. I feel sorry for the people who have to create these hump/table/bump/thingamybobs now, seems like whatever they do it'll be wrong.Edited by OpulentBob on Monday 2nd February 13:48
I just like the chance to explain things from the design/infrastructure side of things, that people may not have thought about before branding us all idiots...
ORD said:
OpulentBob said:
They (humps) are gradually being phased out, they are getting less and less popular as the years go by. There's lots of reasons not to use them, and in the last 2 years, the DFT have allowed signs and road markings to be used as "traffic calming measures" as well as the more common hard engineering.
Disclaimer: My knowledge of that situation above is entirely provided by the (heavily biased) news article and half a photo. I've never been there nor do I know anyone there!
However, in my experience, that is not a speed hump as much as a ped crossing table. It's meant to provide a more "shared" space on a heavily used footway, to give peds an easier and more obvious place to cross a side road, and to raise awareness to approaching drivers (on the side road). The table has to be at the same level as the footway, because of DDA regs (nothing to do with the highways designers wanting anything in particular). I would imagine, although I cannot see in the newspaper article, that the speed hump also has a drainage facility across the road on the high side. There may well be an historical problem of the road at the bottom of the hill flooding, there could be any number of reasons.
It's not meant to slow cars heading in to the side road from the main road, although turning vehicles will have slowed sufficiently that it shouldn't ever be a problem.
The article calling it a speed hump is misleading. The local authority "spokesman" hasn't done the dept any favours either.
All in my opinion.
https://goo.gl/maps/lnl3C (An example of a more standard installation)
Disclaimer: My knowledge of that situation above is entirely provided by the (heavily biased) news article and half a photo. I've never been there nor do I know anyone there!
However, in my experience, that is not a speed hump as much as a ped crossing table. It's meant to provide a more "shared" space on a heavily used footway, to give peds an easier and more obvious place to cross a side road, and to raise awareness to approaching drivers (on the side road). The table has to be at the same level as the footway, because of DDA regs (nothing to do with the highways designers wanting anything in particular). I would imagine, although I cannot see in the newspaper article, that the speed hump also has a drainage facility across the road on the high side. There may well be an historical problem of the road at the bottom of the hill flooding, there could be any number of reasons.
It's not meant to slow cars heading in to the side road from the main road, although turning vehicles will have slowed sufficiently that it shouldn't ever be a problem.
The article calling it a speed hump is misleading. The local authority "spokesman" hasn't done the dept any favours either.
All in my opinion.
https://goo.gl/maps/lnl3C (An example of a more standard installation)
Thank you for the detailed response.I think living in London has completely poisoned me towards speed bumps. I imagine that they have an unbelievably awful score on any cost-benefit analysis.
Without the bump, I pootle along at 30mph or 20mph using almost no fuel and causing almost no pollution.
With the bump, I brake down from 30mph or 20mph to 10mph and then accelerate back to 30 or 20 and start the cycle again - lots of fuel used, lots of emissions, lots of brake dust and lots of wear to my suspension components.
Just fit a fecking speed camera if there is a problem!
Your reasoning is exactly the reason a lot of people are shying away from physical calming measures like speed humps. All they do is slow people down at that specific point, and annoy all the locals due to the braking and accelerating, the "thumping" as cars hit the hump, inevitable flooding issues caused by differential settlement, and vibration to peoples houses (more an issue on concrete roads). People that live next to a speed hump, in my experience, hate them. Plus ambulances with passengers in the back don't appreciate it. I don't like driving over them in my car so why would anyone else?
I recently completed the designs for the entire of Cambridge city centre's residential streets to be 20mph without the installation of a single speed bump (ignoring the ones that are already there). It's quite possible, and a damn sight cheaper to build/install too!
rambo19 said:
percymk4 said:
People who can't just accept they were in the wrong and apologise.
Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "fk off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?"
"You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and fk everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.
Knob.
I'm not a hard man or a fighter, but,Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "f
k off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?""You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and f
k everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.Knob.
as soon as he said "better hope I don't see you around here again mate", I would of been out of my car and just said, "i'm here now, do what you have to do".
The benefits of being a bit rough looking and bald in a mud sodden Navarra - I very rarely get threatened (my booster seat gives me extra height)
OpulentBob said:
I recently completed the designs for the entire of Cambridge city centre's residential streets to be 20mph without the installation of a single speed bump (ignoring the ones that are already there). It's quite possible, and a damn sight cheaper to build/install too!
You bd!And don't give ne the old "I was only acting under orders" bulls
t either It really is a dirty job and all that.
Tyre Tread said:
OpulentBob said:
I recently completed the designs for the entire of Cambridge city centre's residential streets to be 20mph without the installation of a single speed bump (ignoring the ones that are already there). It's quite possible, and a damn sight cheaper to build/install too!
You bd!And don't give ne the old "I was only acting under orders" bulls
t either It really is a dirty job and all that.
Tyre Tread said:
OpulentBob said:
I recently completed the designs for the entire of Cambridge city centre's residential streets to be 20mph without the installation of a single speed bump (ignoring the ones that are already there). It's quite possible, and a damn sight cheaper to build/install too!
You bd!And don't give ne the old "I was only acting under orders" bulls
t either It really is a dirty job and all that.
nice passive-aggressive dig. Water off a duck's back, old bean. Not a boast, just saying speed bumps aren't the default highway engineers kneejerk reaction when it comes to speed management. Europa, out of interest, did you speak to any councillors about the scheme you feel so strongly against, before they (the elected representatives that you/your city voted for) decided to allocate a very small percentage of annual budget on this schemes? If you really want your contribution to the 20mph back, if you feel that strongly about it, I've probably got the 3 or 4 quid laying around that I can send you.
OpulentBob said:
nice passive-aggressive dig. Water off a duck's back, old bean. Not a boast, just saying speed bumps aren't the default highway engineers kneejerk reaction when it comes to speed management. Europa, out of interest, did you speak to any councillors about the scheme you feel so strongly against, before they (the elected representatives that you/your city voted for) decided to allocate a very small percentage of annual budget on this schemes? If you really want your contribution to the 20mph back, if you feel that strongly about it, I've probably got the 3 or 4 quid laying around that I can send you.
OpulentBob said:
No probs, my poor quoting referencing.
I just like the chance to explain things from the design/infrastructure side of things, that people may not have thought about before branding us all idiots...
I am guessing it's the same in infrastructure as it is in other specialities but is it the case that what's designed doesn't always get implemented? I just like the chance to explain things from the design/infrastructure side of things, that people may not have thought about before branding us all idiots...
Europa 1 is right to some degree. I used to work in Cambridge and reaching 30mph was only a pipe dream anywhere near the city during the daytime.
I worked for the Water company and going out on jobs with one of the engineers on a regular basis was an eye openener in terms of how much time they spent simply getting from job to job.
I used to commute in from Market Harborough. It took me more time to get from the outskirts to Fulbourn Road that it did to get the almost 60 miles from Harborough to the outskirts.
I think comments about sending him a few quid are a loittle dismissive when his point is valid that Councils seem sto spend inordinate amounts of money on solving problems that either don't exists or are more about appeasment of the few complainers than resolving the problem.
Was there a big problem with traffic related fatalities in Cambridge? If so was the high number due to foreign students having no idea how to deal with traffic in our country?
I worked for the Water company and going out on jobs with one of the engineers on a regular basis was an eye openener in terms of how much time they spent simply getting from job to job.
I used to commute in from Market Harborough. It took me more time to get from the outskirts to Fulbourn Road that it did to get the almost 60 miles from Harborough to the outskirts.
I think comments about sending him a few quid are a loittle dismissive when his point is valid that Councils seem sto spend inordinate amounts of money on solving problems that either don't exists or are more about appeasment of the few complainers than resolving the problem.
Was there a big problem with traffic related fatalities in Cambridge? If so was the high number due to foreign students having no idea how to deal with traffic in our country?
Edited by Tyre Tread on Tuesday 3rd February 09:26
Europa1 said:
OpulentBob said:
nice passive-aggressive dig. Water off a duck's back, old bean. Not a boast, just saying speed bumps aren't the default highway engineers kneejerk reaction when it comes to speed management. Europa, out of interest, did you speak to any councillors about the scheme you feel so strongly against, before they (the elected representatives that you/your city voted for) decided to allocate a very small percentage of annual budget on this schemes? If you really want your contribution to the 20mph back, if you feel that strongly about it, I've probably got the 3 or 4 quid laying around that I can send you.
Democracy in action.
TheAllSeeingPie said:
OpulentBob said:
No probs, my poor quoting referencing.
I just like the chance to explain things from the design/infrastructure side of things, that people may not have thought about before branding us all idiots...
I am guessing it's the same in infrastructure as it is in other specialities but is it the case that what's designed doesn't always get implemented? I just like the chance to explain things from the design/infrastructure side of things, that people may not have thought about before branding us all idiots...
Tyre Tread said:
Europa 1 is right to some degree. I used to work in Cambridge and reaching 30mph was only a pipe dream anywhere near the city during the daytime.
I worked for the Water company and going out on jobs with one of the engineers on a regular basis was an eye opener in terms of how much time they spent simply getting from job to job.
I used to commute in from Market Harborough. It took me more time to get from the outskirts to Fulbourn Road that it did to get the almost 60 miles from Harborough to the outskirts.
I think comments about sending him a few quid are a little dismissive when his point is valid that Councils seem to spend inordinate amounts of money on solving problems that either don't exists or are more about appeasement of the few complainers than resolving the problem.
Was there a big problem with traffic related fatalities in Cambridge? If so was the high number due to foreign students having no idea how to deal with traffic in our country?
With respect, what do you expect when you drive in to the middle of a City during the day? Especially a City only just behind London in terms of tourism? It's going to be busy... I worked for the Water company and going out on jobs with one of the engineers on a regular basis was an eye opener in terms of how much time they spent simply getting from job to job.
I used to commute in from Market Harborough. It took me more time to get from the outskirts to Fulbourn Road that it did to get the almost 60 miles from Harborough to the outskirts.
I think comments about sending him a few quid are a little dismissive when his point is valid that Councils seem to spend inordinate amounts of money on solving problems that either don't exists or are more about appeasement of the few complainers than resolving the problem.
Was there a big problem with traffic related fatalities in Cambridge? If so was the high number due to foreign students having no idea how to deal with traffic in our country?
Edited by Tyre Tread on Tuesday 3rd February 09:26
Inordinate amounts of money? The £600k (which is nothing compared to the overall budgets, and is around half the cost of a fatal accident) is more like £150k of works, and the rest in consultation and legal fees/costs. It costs a lot of money to send a letter to every household in Cambridge, with double sided A3 colour laser printing, unique codes on each letter etc. If we don't consult, then we get Cambridgers up in arms about doing things "by stealth" etc. So, spend the money on asking the City what they want, and they complain about spending the money spent on consulting them.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Although saying that, the majority of respondees are in favour (or were, up until I left). The 20mph consultation had more responses than any other consultation in the City in recent times, to head off the "aah but nobody responds to those things".
The jibe about the 3 or 4 quid was to highlight exactly how much of someone's Council tax went to "pay my wages" and "screw up the streets" and whatever other uneducated accusations are flung about, and how ridiculous a statement it is.
As I said in my point above, it's easy to sit on the sidelines and criticise. When people are aware of the realities, they tend to me more understanding. Unless you're a Cambridge News reader (think Daily Mail lite) in which case everyone involved with the CLOWNCIL is a baby rapist.
Anyway, time for a cuppa.
The utter dunce c*nt who knocked over a motorbike behind her while reversing out of a space on my way to work this morning. She got out, looked at it, shrugged, then just drove off. Luckily I got your reg and gave it to the guy who's bike it was along with my number so I can provide a witness statement 
B.J.W said:
rambo19 said:
percymk4 said:
People who can't just accept they were in the wrong and apologise.
Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "fk off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?"
"You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and fk everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.
Knob.
I'm not a hard man or a fighter, but,Me, on my way to a night-shift, driving through my village with parking spaces either side of the road, taxi parked up on the right and a car coming the opposite way waiting for me to pass so as he could get through.
Suddenly said knob decides to shoot out of his space on the right (behind the taxi) in reverse. He fails to see me and forces me to stop and use horn to show him I'm there.
He stops, glares for a few seconds, and mouths something like "f
k off". So I put the window down and ask him if he could move forward so I (and the car behind me) could get past. He then puts his window down and asks: "what the fk is your problem?""You nearly hit my car"
"what?"
"you nearly hit my car"
"..."
"Can I get past then?"
"Better hope I don't see you around here again mate"
"aye ok"
He then follows me out the village, right up my arse with the full beams on his diesel A3 blazing away.
If he'd have held his hands up in a "sorry for the mistake" way then it would've been a non event, rather than going straight for the aggressive "I'm right and f
k everyone else" attitude that seems to be what you find a lot of on the roads now.Knob.
as soon as he said "better hope I don't see you around here again mate", I would of been out of my car and just said, "i'm here now, do what you have to do".
The benefits of being a bit rough looking and bald in a mud sodden Navarra - I very rarely get threatened (my booster seat gives me extra height)
Also, I have the opposite a muddy 4x4, a small red MX5, and I have noticed a difference in other drivers attitudes since buying the car a few months ago, but that's another story.
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