One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2

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Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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martyuk said:
I must be thick or illiterate.Someone help me out.
This document is a bit clearer on the issue: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Raynkar

111 posts

109 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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What hasn't helped with understanding double yellow or single yellow lines IMHO is the dumbing down of the Highway Code.
Someone taking their test today could be asked what a double yellow line means and could pass their test with the answer 'no waiting at any time'
That is clearly wrong in regards to many double yellow lines, and is why signage has to accompany them with details of the time periods.
When I took my tests the answer would have needed to be 'no waiting between 7am and 7 pm on four or more days of the week plus additional periods' (that's from memory so may not be word perfect) which at least meant the driver had some grasp of what double yellows meant, and how a single yellow line differed ( it didn't have the 'plus additional periods' in its definition)

Sorry for thread drift smile

Mandalore

4,220 posts

113 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Raynkar said:
martyuk said:
Read it again. It's split into two sections and actually says you must not stop to board or alight passengers on school markings smile

What is doesn't say is that you must not stop to board or alight passengers on double yellow lines.
It's interesting to note that many bus stops feature double yellow lines for this exact reason.

Edit.
Our posts crossed. The entire sentance you put in bold is for zig zags/school entrance, not double yellow lines which were dealt with in the preceding sentance.

Edited by Raynkar on Sunday 5th April 13:18
I also think it clearly says no stopping on dbl yellow, even if there is not sign:

from the link said:
You MUST NOT wait or park on yellow lines during the times of operation shown on nearby time plates (or zone entry signs if in a Controlled Parking Zone) – see ‘Traffic signs’ and ‘Road markings’. Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings (see ‘Road markings’) when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping.
The first sentence is clearly about singles an the second explains how doubles have additional constraints.

Edited by Mandalore on Sunday 5th April 16:54

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Mandalore said:
The first sentence is clearly about singles an the second explains how doubles have additional constraints.

Edited by Mandalore on Sunday 5th April 16:59
It says nothing about not stopping on double yellows!

Reading skills are not strong on PH.

Mandalore

4,220 posts

113 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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ORD said:
Mandalore said:
The first sentence is clearly about singles an the second explains how doubles have additional constraints.

Edited by Mandalore on Sunday 5th April 16:59
It says nothing about not stopping on double yellows!

Reading skills are not strong on PH.
You actually DO have to stop and park, BEFORE you can try to wait on double yellows. Getting out of the car is an extension of the existing mistake - on the drivers part.

Unless you jump out at the very last second before the car touches physically the kerbside, that is!


You cannot stop to drop passengers off as in the school example, it is not the same as loading/unloading of goods for a shop.

Edited by Mandalore on Sunday 5th April 18:22

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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M2 coast bound lunchtime today. An accident at Faversham junction & traffic at standstill or stationary. Bellend coach driver decides he will be Traff Pol & block part of hard shoulder!! This causes 2 marked Police vehicles to leave shoulder & enter L1 to pass it then he drifts back onto shoulder & when the Doctor in an unmarked car tries to pass on his near side said Bellend pulls further onto shoulder & appeared to hit Docs car.

Not sure exactly what damage was done Doc did get out to remonstrate with the Fcensoredwit but when I passed the car at the accident scene I couldnt see any damage.

Why do HGV & Coach drivers think they need to regulate traffic?

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Mandalore said:
You cannot stop to drop passengers off as in the school example, it is not the same as loading/unloading of goods for a shop.
You can stop and load/unload or drop off/pick up passengers on double yellows; the prohibition they carry is about waiting.

carlove

7,565 posts

167 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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The pleasant member of the local traveller community in her S60 who honked at me for "cutting her up" at a mini roundabout, except I didn't, she was to my left, I was to her right, she was going so fast that I stopped halfway across as to not have a collision with a car that is no doubt fully insured and legal, so she honked at me.
The smelly looking man in the passenger seat shouted at me and gesticulated.
I didn't honk at her, no hand signals though I muttered to my self "why don't you slow down" which I think they heard and took exception to.

In her defence the mini roundabout is horrendous, the exit I was coming out of was blind so she couldn't see me, but as I said didn't slow down (think she was above the 30 limit as well) until she saw me emerging and just stopped in time. Personally I slow to an almost stop when coming from her angle and come to a complete stop when coming out of my exit.


Also a chap in an Accord, less a knob more the worst driver ever.
Was behind him and he just sailed through a red light, braked as he crossed the line but carried on, then cut me off because he was in the wrong lane, then stopped at a green light, then cut me off because he was in the wrong lane and finally indicated right and tuned left. How can you even be that crap at driving? Think he was an older gentleman.



Edited by carlove on Sunday 5th April 22:38

mr2aw11

811 posts

223 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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The bare-faced cheek of idiot drivers. Like the stupid bint who nudged the back of my car whilst making a rather half arsed attempt at parking (going in forward when a parallel park would have been better, mounting the kerb because the angle was wrong... And not knowing the length of her car, thus using my bumper as a brake).
I know she hit the car, because I was sat in it as she did so.
Yes, it was barely a kiss... As she completed her manoeuvre, I got out and looked over the bumper. No damage, it's a non-event.
She gets out of the car, I'm about to say something along the lines of "no harm done... " but barely get time as she launches straight into "I didn't touch it - I would have felt it. "
I'm aghast, that she could deny it with a straight fking face when I was sat in the fking car at the moment of impact! Take some bloody responsibility for your ham-fisted actions, ffs.
And as she walked away, still denying it, she has the audacity to shout at me "learn how to drive".

silverfoxcc

7,690 posts

145 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Mandalore


Double yellow lines. There is an exemption to parking or waiting, which is when picking up and dropping off passengers. Also included in this exemption is the fact that you can leave the vehicle unattended IF the passenger requires assistance in either boarding or alighting to get to/from the premises. ie wheelchair passenger, small child going to nursery etc.

If you want a bit more chapter and verse on these instances where the local council have ticketed someone, either by warden or those soon to be gone sniper smart cars, i would suggest that you go onto pepipoo.com and look through the Council and Decrim forum for such cases.

Studio117

4,250 posts

191 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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<<<<

Overtook a people carrier and was going a bit too quickly for the sharp hairpin ahead. As a result I made a right dogs dinner of the braking and the turn.

My bad.

DickP

1,127 posts

150 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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The individual squeezing up the inside on two lanes merging into single. He was fortunate there was no oncoming traffic as the junction had no central reservation and if there had been I'd have been forced to push against his car to avoid a head on.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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DickP said:
The individual squeezing up the inside on two lanes merging into single. He was fortunate there was no oncoming traffic as the junction had no central reservation and if there had been I'd have been forced to push against his car to avoid a head on.
Rather than brake?!

Blown2CV

28,820 posts

203 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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fking mongs being interviewed on TV about the pension rules changes, acting like they're lottery winners because they can now draw down all the money in one hit. One person was excitedly talking about buying race horses, sports cars and spunking the rest on holidays. We're talking about someone who was early to mid 60s, with £150k pot. Realistically about £5k a year before the taxman takes his bit, so probably not far above dole money, providing she dies within 30 years. So, even if she'd kept to the previous rules she's struggle to live, but is now talking of spending it all before she's 70. Real fking stupidity right there.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Seven people have come to see the Megane Scenic I have for sale for £300

Two wanted something concourse.
One didn't like the fact a fifteen year old Renault had rust.
Three said they'd come back but never did.
One wanted to part exchange a Corsa that looked like they had just dug it out of a field and smelled like it had a corpse in the boot.

banghead

If I advertise it for £600 I'll get a better class of time waster. hehe

DickP

1,127 posts

150 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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ORD said:
Rather than brake?!
Perhaps a marginal exaggeration when I made the original post. wink By the time I realised what was happening, I think braking would have put him into the side of my car as it quite an aggressive narrowing of two lanes into one after a cross roads. In this instance with no oncoming I found it easier to ease off the pedal and let him push his way through, dropping in behind him. He also charged off as soon as there was a semi-clear stretch of road, even though it was heaving with pedestrians either side and on the road thus leaving me to think he's a less than considerate driver in general.

Edited by DickP on Monday 6th April 20:15

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Me!!

Just discovered my headlights have been set for Europe since last September.

Actually I'm wondering if they really do deflect the beam because nobody has flashed this winter IIRC.

DervVW

2,223 posts

139 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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mr2aw11 said:
The bare-faced cheek of idiot drivers. Like the stupid bint who nudged the back of my car whilst making a rather half arsed attempt at parking (going in forward when a parallel park would have been better, mounting the kerb because the angle was wrong... And not knowing the length of her car, thus using my bumper as a brake).
I know she hit the car, because I was sat in it as she did so.
Yes, it was barely a kiss... As she completed her manoeuvre, I got out and looked over the bumper. No damage, it's a non-event.
She gets out of the car, I'm about to say something along the lines of "no harm done... " but barely get time as she launches straight into "I didn't touch it - I would have felt it. "
I'm aghast, that she could deny it with a straight fking face when I was sat in the fking car at the moment of impact! Take some bloody responsibility for your ham-fisted actions, ffs.
And as she walked away, still denying it, she has the audacity to shout at me "learn how to drive".
I know this feeling...
I was parked in the services once, whilst my wife took my young son to the loo I waited in the car in the car park, and I notice a growling engine behind, just as I turn there is a slight nudge of an impact, some young girl in a new mini on a private plate gets out, I get out to check for damage, look at her, and see there is no damage, so I mention quite politely since I am relieved at seeing no damage that she has hit me, she just shrugs her shoulders and wanders off, no sorry, not a care in the world. I suppose it was a non event but if there had been damage would she have cared? Blamed me? who knows...

carlove

7,565 posts

167 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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DervVW said:
mr2aw11 said:
The bare-faced cheek of idiot drivers. Like the stupid bint who nudged the back of my car whilst making a rather half arsed attempt at parking (going in forward when a parallel park would have been better, mounting the kerb because the angle was wrong... And not knowing the length of her car, thus using my bumper as a brake).
I know she hit the car, because I was sat in it as she did so.
Yes, it was barely a kiss... As she completed her manoeuvre, I got out and looked over the bumper. No damage, it's a non-event.
She gets out of the car, I'm about to say something along the lines of "no harm done... " but barely get time as she launches straight into "I didn't touch it - I would have felt it. "
I'm aghast, that she could deny it with a straight fking face when I was sat in the fking car at the moment of impact! Take some bloody responsibility for your ham-fisted actions, ffs.99
And as she walked away, still denying it, she has the audacity to shout at me "learn how to drive".
I know this feeling...
I was parked in the services once, whilst my wife took my young son to the loo I waited in the car in the car park, and I notice a growling engine behind, just as I turn there is a slight nudge of an impact, some young girl in a new mini on a private plate gets out, I get out to check for damage, look at her, and see there is no damage, so I mention quite politely since I am relieved at seeing no damage that she has hit me, she just shrugs her shoulders and wanders off, no sorry, not a care in the world. I suppose it was a non event but if there had been damage would she have cared? Blamed me? who knows...
Just to neutralize a bit.
A very tatty old 3 Series bumped my car while parking, slight nudge no damage done. Driver, a young chap in dirty clothes came out to check damage, I was walking by at the time, he couldn't apologise enough, showed genuine shock that he'd hit it.
That's the only time my car has been nudged while I've been there, I hate to think how many times when I'm not there.


Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Liquid Knight said:
Seven people have come to see the Megane Scenic I have for sale for £300

Two wanted something concourse.
One didn't like the fact a fifteen year old Renault had rust.
Three said they'd come back but never did.
One wanted to part exchange a Corsa that looked like they had just dug it out of a field and smelled like it had a corpse in the boot.

banghead

If I advertise it for £600 I'll get a better class of time waster. hehe
Had the "I'll give you £100, good offer because it's only £30 a ton for scrap at the moment" lot yet? banghead
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