RE: Chris Harris video: SL63 vs M6

RE: Chris Harris video: SL63 vs M6

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AndyWoodall

2,625 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Another cracking video. I've said it before and I'll say it again the ability of these videos to fufil the car geek in us, coupled with the excellent shots by Carey (presumably), makes them unmissable for me.

Let Top Gear be Top Gear and cater for the masses, let these Drive channel videos continue to be high quality and cater for their own niche.

I watch these every week on my tv via the AppleTV, I rarely turn the tv on to watch live tv like top gear.

mikeg15

287 posts

201 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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When it comes to styling/design, the best that the german motor industry has ever achieved in their road cars is " acquired taste ".
Beauty in cars eludes them.

Ari

19,347 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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SL for me, but with a less pointlessly powerful engine.

M6 wouldn't get a look in, hate cars with too much road noise.

I do sometimes wonder whether Chris's videos should come with a Don't try this at home" warning in a bid to try and stop the hard of thinking from emulating his ESP off sideways slides on public roads, but I guess it probably wouldn't do much good.

Just have to hope I'm never coming the other way...

Ari

19,347 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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mikeg15 said:
When it comes to styling/design, the best that the german motor industry has ever achieved in their road cars is " acquired taste ".
Beauty in cars eludes them.
confused


Ari

19,347 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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StottyZr said:
StonetheCrows said:
"Do a set of rear brake pads in a month" ....?
This confused me. That would make sense if it used an open diff with brake application (e-diff) but he also states it uses a mechanical diff.
Same. confused

GTO Scott

3,816 posts

225 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Saw this vid being filmed on Scotland Road (the long straight-ish B-road in the film) - passed the M6 parked up, and despite it being the new '6, thought nothing more than 'another M6. Meh.' Seeing the SL coming the other way by the bridge caused me to look twice - the old SL55 AMG was much easier on the eye, but the new one certainly has presence in spades.

Cracking vid, and sorry if I got in the way (was driving a green and white brick).

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Old E63 M6 looked much hornier.

aston addict

424 posts

159 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Great video Chris - just don't be tempted by a career in TV.

As for the cars - the SL looks like a melted welly from the front - and with that stupid matt paint looks like a car driven by someone you'd rather not be stuck in a lift with.

M6 looks better, and i'm sure the Merc drives better. but 50k more expensive?

£140k buys a lot of nice cars. In my view the SLS roadster is the most beautiful car merc makes and could be bought used for that price.

JonathanLegard

5,187 posts

238 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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StottyZr said:
StonetheCrows said:
"Do a set of rear brake pads in a month" ....?
This confused me. That would make sense if it used an open diff with brake application (e-diff) but he also states it uses a mechanical diff.
I was under the impression he was talking about constant braking interventions via ESP.

Andy ap

1,147 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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M6 looks better? errrr......... 2 doors and 1925kg. OOOO....KKKKK.

Edited by Andy ap on Thursday 7th February 15:01

Gary C

12,482 posts

180 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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GTO Scott said:
Cracking vid, and sorry if I got in the way (was driving a green and white brick).
Surely not as it was on a closed road wink

Seriously, I worry that if one day Mr Harris has a serious accident while testing, someone will use these videos in court to argue a case of dangerous driving as a contributing factor.




(zip up flame suit)

Gary C

12,482 posts

180 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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JonathanLegard said:
StottyZr said:
StonetheCrows said:
"Do a set of rear brake pads in a month" ....?
This confused me. That would make sense if it used an open diff with brake application (e-diff) but he also states it uses a mechanical diff.
I was under the impression he was talking about constant braking interventions via ESP.
Dont some torque biasing diffs use the rear brakes in addition as they cannot lockup.

I know the RX8 had a superLSD but also used the rear brakes as part of the traction & stability controls.

cerb4.5lee

30,700 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Agreed its a stunning video again thanks Chris, i loved the slo-mo sideways shots epic!

I would take the M6 out of the two but both are awesome machines smile

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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It's an interesting observation that the true rival (M6 cab) would have been utterly stomped by the SL. and yet he still comes out slightly in favour of the M6, weird......

FisiP1

1,279 posts

154 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Why is the SL so expensive? All Merc interiors these days look very similar, and the AMG bits and similarly great AMG engines are available in the C63 etc which is what? half the price?

It's not that much bigger or flasher a car, so I just don't get it.

HighwayStar

4,277 posts

145 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Greg_D said:
It's an interesting observation that the true rival (M6 cab) would have been utterly stomped by the SL. and yet he still comes out slightly in favour of the M6, weird......
Don't really see them as rivals, the M6 cab is a big 4 seater... Not really true rivals at all. If you want 4 seats, open top, the SL is off the list. Now if the M6 cab was a 2 seater...

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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HighwayStar said:
Greg_D said:
It's an interesting observation that the true rival (M6 cab) would have been utterly stomped by the SL. and yet he still comes out slightly in favour of the M6, weird......
Don't really see them as rivals, the M6 cab is a big 4 seater... Not really true rivals at all. If you want 4 seats, open top, the SL is off the list. Now if the M6 cab was a 2 seater...
surely using the open version would have been closer than using a coupe.

And the test was (originally) powerful gt cabs, and they are close enough on price to be comparible.

HighwayStar

4,277 posts

145 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Greg_D said:
HighwayStar said:
Greg_D said:
It's an interesting observation that the true rival (M6 cab) would have been utterly stomped by the SL. and yet he still comes out slightly in favour of the M6, weird......
Don't really see them as rivals, the M6 cab is a big 4 seater... Not really true rivals at all. If you want 4 seats, open top, the SL is off the list. Now if the M6 cab was a 2 seater...
surely using the open version would have been closer than using a coupe.

And the test was (originally) powerful gt cabs, and they are close enough on price to be comparible.
I certainly see your point but the big proper 4 seat M6 cab was always going to have more body flex than the SL for 2. On paper, rivals maybe, but I think they'd attract different customers.

DanBMW

194 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Still don't get the i-drive bashing it's a piece of p**s to use.

I like the rear of the SL but over all the M6 is better looking (yes I am biased) still don't see the rivalry, as has been said M6 is 4 seater and SL is 2 and SL is 40k+ more.

Still, good video's for finding out facts about the cars, though I still enjoy Top Gear I just don't take it seriously. It's just three blokes doing what we all like to do - arseing around with cars and machines.

trando

722 posts

172 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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I like both of these cars a lot. I would take the SL though purely because of the engine, which is a masterpiece.