Oh, I never win anything normally...

Oh, I never win anything normally...

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mattshiz

461 posts

141 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/01/30/ange...

So they've now gone bust. Did EVO or Harry ever issue a proper apology?

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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mattshiz said:
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/01/30/ange...

So they've now gone bust. Did EVO or Harry ever issue a proper apology?
That's the old outfit.

They stole 1000's off of UK punters and have now opened up as 'Supercar Lifestyle Resort' is Spain.

Horrible way to do business, they should be exposed, indicted and imprisoned.




edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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What a load of crooks.

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Vindal00 said:
MY first post on this forum BUT after finding this VERY entertaining thread had to give you all an update…..
Good first post clap

idk much about these sorts of laws but any chance they've been barred from being directors in the UK?

eta: I've just googled supercar lifestyle ltd and super car lifestyle ltd and this thread doesn't come up soon enough (although others do, e.g. alfaaddict), I'd really hope that anyone googling super car lifestyle ltd or supercar lifestyle ltd or supercar lifestyle resort would find their way to one of the warning threads before losing their money to these crooks.

There's a 07877500 SUPERCAR LIFESTYLE RESORT LTD coming up on companies house mind..

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 9th April 10:00

Vindal00

21 posts

120 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Wish I could do the icons!

Looks like this is the same outfit where this thread started - director of your new posting is Steve Mccrae!!! Mentioned in an earlier thread, I'm guessing he is related to John Mccrae who we were told was running the sham!

Still no contact or response!! Found lots of links via facebook and Linkedin.... just waiting for my new sign-ups to be accepted then I will start with those....

Posted a nice review on Tripadvisor also.... SS Clive got a mention AGAIN!

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Meanwhile John.. er.. Jon.. has this site listed in his profile http://www.securedinvestments.com/
Plenty of links to SCL in there too.
Phil Wardle is another name to watch, listed as a director and a consultant of SLC on linkedin.

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 9th April 10:48

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Thanks to this thread, the grass STILL hasn't been cut!

Vindal00

21 posts

120 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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This is perfect thank you....

Has an ad for the circuit (SS Clive), Supercar Lifestyle Resort SHAM and Tiff's after dinner speech on the 22/5/14... All with an amazing investment opportunity!

I think I can trust them with my life savings and probably safe to re-mortgage the house to maximise the return... Where do I sign!!!


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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And this is the problem. Cowboys can close their shady business at the drop of a hat, and start up again calling the company a very similar name, with no come-back.

I hope these guys rip off someone unpleasant.

Vindal00

21 posts

120 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Just signed up to twitter... vindal00000....

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

265 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Surprised that this thread isnt coming up more in google searches, given that it refers to supercar lifestyle and supercar lifestyle resort?

www.supercarlifestyleresort.com

note the UK site has gone offline since yesterday:

http://www.supercarlifestyle.co.uk/

01782 454 005
Our website is currently undergoing some routine maintenance.
We apologise for any inconvenience.

Vindal00

21 posts

120 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Just tweeted the investment company who is owned by the same person - Steve McCrae - got a reply within an hour...

Also tweeted Tiff Needell to see if he really is guest speaker for the investment company!?

The investment company - secure investment - has the same +34 number as SLR

Track Owner - Clive Greenhalgh - is still advising he does not know anyone called McCrae even though the investment company is promoting a total re-development of his track with customer built facilities for wealthy drivers... looks impressive but so did my track day....

So far NO ONE has had a positive thing to say for either company....

Will keep you posted

Still can't do the icon thingys!

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

265 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Tweet Harry Metcalfe whilst you are there - they were involved in the original competition scam with EVO magazine.

Vindal00

21 posts

120 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Did he do anything?

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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arfur daley said:
Make sure you say hello to Jason plato if you see him.
And when you do shake his hand vigorously for a long period of time, but don't make eye contact... he doesn't like that!

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

265 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Yes I think they apologised and distanced themselves from them moving forward. May be able to find his tweets if you search him. I am not on ttter any more it annoys me too much!

I also reported them to ASA breaking rules on competitions and personal data which was upheld.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2013/6...

ASA Adjudication on Supercar Lifestyle Ltd
Supercar Lifestyle Ltd
Unit 15 Bradwell Works
Davenport Street
Longport
Stoke-on-Trent
Staffordshire
ST6 4LL
Date: 12 June 2013
Media: Magazine
Sector: Leisure
Number of complaints: 1
Complaint Ref: A13-225392
Background
Summary of Council decision:

Two issues were investigated both of which were Upheld.

Ad
A prize promotion, sent by e-mail to entrants to a competition in the November 2012 edition of Evo magazine, was received on 10 February, offering a racing tuition prize. It stated "Congratulations [name] you have won one of our runners up prizes! A FREE TUITION SESSION WITH EX F1 DRIVER IAN ASHLEY AND THE TEAM As a runner up you will be coached on how to drive like a professional racing driver" and set out what the session would involve. Text continued "The session will run from MIRA's secret Test facility in Nuneaton ... To claim your exclusive tuition session please contacts our booking team on 01XXX XXXXXX or simply fill in our contact form by selecting the link below ... We look forward to seeing you in 2013".

Issue
The complainant challenged whether:

1. the ad was misleading and had been administered properly because, on contacting Supercar Lifestyle to claim the runners up prize he was informed that an insurance payment of £199 would be required in order to claim the prize, which was not stated in the terms and conditions; and.

2. the runners up prize offered was a genuine prize, because he believed it had been offered to all remaining entrants.

CAP Code (Edition 12)
3.13.38.18.17.18.198.208.218.21.1
Response
1. & 2. Supercar Lifestyle Ltd (Supercar Lifestyle) said they had run a legitimate competition in conjunction with Evo magazine (Dennis Publishing), which had been published in Evo in November 2012, where the prize was to "WIN A DAY'S TUITION FROM FORMULA 1 VETERANS IN A 535BHP GT3 SPLC SPORTSCAR". They said they had named the first prize winner, who had booked his day's tuition for June 2013.

They pointed out the e-mail had stated that terms and conditions applied and the competition was subject to liability and registration. They said the tuition was free of charge, Supercar Lifestyle were paying for the track time, ex F1 instructor fee, fuel, vehicle maintenance and refreshments. They said the applicable fee covered any damage to vehicles, damage to the circuit and personal injury cover whilst the client was in control of the car.

They said four clients had attended the event and the feedback was excellent. They said they could provide the testimonials. They said there had been some negative information on a web forum, but the majority of forum posts had come from people who had not spoken with Supercar Lifestyle or entered the competition.

Assessment
1. Upheld

The ASA noted that an ad in the November 2012 edition of Evo magazine had promoted a competition to "WIN A DAY'S TUITION FROM FORMULA 1 VETERANS IN A 535BHP GT3 SPLC SPORTSCAR" and that that magazine ad had stated "There's one prize up for grabs". We noted that that competition was run by Supercar Lifestyle in conjunction with the publishers, Dennis Publishing Ltd. We consulted Dennis Publishing Ltd and understood that, after that competition was over and the winner had claimed the prize, Supercar Lifestyle had decided to run a second competition, which was detailed in the e-mail ad under investigation, and which was addressed to all remaining participants in the original competition. We noted that Dennis Publishing Ltd maintained that they had not been aware of that second competition and the e-mail had been sent to all participants of the original competition by Supercar Lifestyle without their knowledge. We also understood that there was no runners up prize agreed in the original competition.

We noted that the e-mail stated "Congratulations [name] you have won one of our runners up prizes!". However, we had not seen any documentation showing how the advertisers had selected the runners up or had ensured that the completion was genuine. We therefore considered that, in the absence of supporting documentation, the "FREE TUITION SESSION" offered in the e-mail was not a genuine competition prize, on the basis that it had been offered to all participants in the original competition and had not been won by selected runners up.

We therefore considered that the e-mail was promoting a free tuition session to all original participants, for which we noted there was a £199 insurance fee, and, because we had not seen any supporting documentation showing that the free tuition session had been offered to selected runners up as a prize, we concluded that the prize was not a genuine prize and the ad was misleading on that basis.

On that point, the promotion breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1, 3.3 (Misleading advertising), 8.1 (Sales promotions), 8.17.1 (Significant conditions for promotions), 8.19, 8.20 and 8.21 (Prize promotions).

2. Upheld

We understood that the insurance payment of £199 would cover driving tuition sessions for a period of 12 months. We noted that the insurance fee was to cover any damage to vehicles, damage to the circuit and personal injury cover whilst the client was in control of the car. We acknowledged that insurance coverage was required to take part in the tuition session and considered that having insurance, and therefore paying the insurance fee, was a significant condition of the promotion and the fee should therefore have been made clear to consumers and should have been set out in the e-mail. Because we noted that that information was not included in the ad, we concluded that the promotion was misleading.

On that point, the promotion breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1, 3.3 (Misleading advertising), 8.1 (Sales promotions), 8.17.1 (Significant conditions for promotions) and 8.21.1 (Prize promotions).

Action
The claims must not appear again in their current form. We told the advertisers to ensure their competitions offered genuine prizes, in line with the requirements of the CAP Code and that all significant conditions of the offer were clear to consumers.

Vindal00

21 posts

120 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Thanks - have added to the threads on EVO too.....

Tiff responded via Twitter... "information much appreciated".... not much of a commitment but at least a reply....

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

265 months

veevee

1,455 posts

151 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Interesting that www.securedinvestments.com doesn't actually seem to be selling anything other than Supercar Lifestyle related 'investments'. 312% ROI... where do I sign!

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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edo said:
Trading standards only received one complaint?!