RE: Alfa Romeo 4C - first official pictures
Discussion
Rawwr said:
otolith said:
One of the reasons I really hope this does well is to chip away at this pernicious way of thinking - which basically amounts to "if you want anything special, you can only have it if the Germans build it, because special things are only worth what they cost if they are German".
Welcome to Pistonheads.kambites said:
I would be lovely if that was the case, but sadly I think that attitude is so deeply ingrained in the UK public's psyche that this will go the way of all the other cars that have tried to compete. 
Probably right for the UK, though I think Alfa will probably be more interested in how well the US public take to it.A3tdi said:
For me personally its not about that, im just saying how this car at this price point will be perceived by the money buying public (not pistonheader's). It doesn't appear to be very good value for money that is all.
Can you give an example of a vehicle which does have the perception of - or indeed really is - value for money?A3tdi said:
But thats the thing, a Cayman S is a Porsche. And unfortunately you can't really compare a 'brand' like Porsche to an Alfa Romeo (PistonHeader's can) but the buyer of this type of car will most likely not look twice at the Alfa, hence the price is key.
Alfa Romeo has a fine heritage that most petrolheads know about, some evidently do not. A3tdi said:
kambites said:
You mean more power, or a higher power to weight ratio?
A mixture of both i guess. Minimum of 350bhp at this price point for me.otolith said:
kambites said:
I would be lovely if that was the case, but sadly I think that attitude is so deeply ingrained in the UK public's psyche that this will go the way of all the other cars that have tried to compete.
Probably right for the UK, though I think Alfa will probably be more interested in how well the US public take to it.A3tdi said:
kambites said:
You mean more power, or a higher power to weight ratio?
A mixture of both i guess. Minimum of 350bhp at this price point for me.More is not always better.
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GroundEffect said:
If you drive an A3TDI as your username suggests, you don't actually care too much about accelerative performance. 250BHP/tonne is a fair chunk - it's more than my 345PS Z4M.
I guess i am in the minority that wouldn't buy a £50k 237bhp 1.8 car.Edit: Nope not an A3tdi anymore, still on my inbetween car before i feel happy to spend on something more performance orientated.
GroundEffect said:
A3tdi said:
kambites said:
You mean more power, or a higher power to weight ratio?
A mixture of both i guess. Minimum of 350bhp at this price point for me.As per concept makes it the first Alfa Romeo produced by Alfa in a long time and my potential next car of choice. However if it goes on sale over the 30k mark, therefore more than an m135 with zero practicality and the same Alfa build quality I experienced in my Alfa Gt..
I will not be tempted by a pretty face with a high price.
I will not be tempted by a pretty face with a high price.
A3tdi said:
GroundEffect said:
If you drive an A3TDI as your username suggests, you don't actually care too much about accelerative performance. 250BHP/tonne is a fair chunk - it's more than my 345PS Z4M.
I guess i am in the minority that wouldn't buy a £50k 237bhp 1.8 car.
kambites said:
I'm not sure how big the market is for this sort of car in the US? Most Americans I know (admittedly most of them are from the deep south) would never even consider anything that small, mostly because they wouldn't fit in it.
It's a big country, though, and the sales objectives are fairly modest. The US doesn't have the baggage Europe has of the last 20 years or so of slightly ordinary Alfas. If they market it correctly, people are going to see it as a cut price exotic. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff