Merge in Turn

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Face for Radio

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1,777 posts

167 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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In the evening heading Northbound on the A1, around Stevenage there is a merge in turn for the third lane into the second. Progress is always very slow here for obvious reasons.

Anyway, what with the levels of imbeciles that wanted to barge as far forward as possible before merging, instead of using a readily available spot further back and causing things to slow because of arguments, the Police were taking measures to prevent this. I got my passenger to snap this picture.



Go. hehe

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Face for Radio said:
I got my passenger to snap this picture.
bks hehe

Himself

483 posts

147 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Why waste the empty tarmac in front of the Police van?

Face for Radio

Original Poster:

1,777 posts

167 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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carreauchompeur said:
bks hehe
hehe

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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If you force people to merge half a mile before the roads merge, all you do is move the queue half a mile back ....

Countdown

39,912 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Himself said:
Why waste the empty tarmac in front of the Police van?
Encourages people to merge earlier rather than driving up to the merge point and then finding there isn't sufficient space for a safe merge.

The Badger

355 posts

176 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Everyone is at church so no biters.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Countdown said:
Himself said:
Why waste the empty tarmac in front of the Police van?
Encourages people to merge earlier rather than driving up to the merge point and then finding there isn't sufficient space for a safe merge.
So what you are saying is that you don't want someone to "cut in front" of you and drive really close to the car in front?

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Merge in turn.
Three words.

I wonder if there are any other three word instructions that baffle so, so many people.

Himself

483 posts

147 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Countdown said:
Encourages people to merge earlier rather than driving up to the merge point and then finding there isn't sufficient space for a safe merge.
"merge point" So you're suggesting that one should merge before the merge point? Surely by definition, the merge point is just that?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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The merge point is placed at the location of greatest aggregate benefit. Blocking the lane is counterproductive, ignorant and wrong.

The Badger

355 posts

176 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Police budget cuts force constabulary to use antiquated diesel Transit van on UK's Premier A Road...

McWigglebum3rd

32,414 posts

204 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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The Badger said:
Police budget cuts force constabulary to use antiquated diesel Transit van on UK's Premier A Road...
How much newer do you want them to use?

tyranical

927 posts

190 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Well done plod, I do this myself on occassion - I know this will ruin the day of many a PH'er who thinks its ok!

fk everyone else it does my head in when people just drive up the outside and barge in at the end, it slows me down aswell as everyone else just because some helmet thinks that they have priority. If there is genuinely no gap anywhere further back then fair enough, not that i've ever seen that happen but the amount of people you see who drive past all the gaps and just squash themselves into one that isn't there at the end is ridiculous.

Yes you can say "but then the queue would be longer if they all joined the back" but it really wouldn't as the traffic would flow far better as it wouldn't have people squashing in at the end so everyone would just be moving and not having to let people in.

Down with merge in turn!

Countdown

39,912 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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davepoth said:
Countdown said:
Himself said:
Why waste the empty tarmac in front of the Police van?
Encourages people to merge earlier rather than driving up to the merge point and then finding there isn't sufficient space for a safe merge.
So what you are saying is that you don't want someone to "cut in front" of you and drive really close to the car in front?
Nope - not sure where you managed to get that from confused

I was guessing as to why the Police were doing what they were doing.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Do people really drive up and barge in at the end?
Or are they driving up to the end and merging when and where theyre supposed to when some numpty tries to prevent it?

The system seems to work best when they merge traffic from the inside to the outside lane. What about 'stay in lane' signs along the road with a 'merge in turn' sign at the merge point?

Countdown

39,912 posts

196 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Himself said:
"merge point" So you're suggesting that one should merge before the merge point? Surely by definition, the merge point is just that?
Where is it defined that the point where the Lane closes is the "merge point"?


Potatoes

3,572 posts

170 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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PurpleMoonlight said:
If you force people to merge half a mile before the roads merge, all you do is move the queue half a mile back ....
This.

What a retarded police van driver...

treehack

997 posts

239 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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I'm guessing this is at Welwyn, it is a bottleneck as it goes down to 2 lanes just before a slip road joins the A1. I think the problem is that people move into the outside lane after it goes from 3-2 before the slip to avoid the traffic joining.
It's just a crappy layout, best bet is try to get through there by 4pmsmile

The Badger

355 posts

176 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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McWigglebum3rd said:
How much newer do you want them to use?
Apologies. I was referring to the design/engineering not being fit for purpose. Not the actual registered age of Transit.