RE: You Know You Want To: Dodge Viper GTS

RE: You Know You Want To: Dodge Viper GTS

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irocfan

40,611 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Gixer said:
swerni said:
Herbie75 said:
0-60 in 4 seconds may be, but which way you would be facing is another matter. I think this vid says it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cowwf8p6E
I'm genuinely curious, what do you think that vid says?

To me it says that the person in the Viper wasn't paying attention and drove in to the back of someone else.
I saw someone to this in a Peugeot 406 on the M4 a few weeks ago, what conclusion can we draw? rolleyes
Oh look I've just found a video that shows a GTR is so st it can't go down a straight road, amongst other things rolleyes

Boy PH is getting stupid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmeTLcW2TIM&fea...
if you really want to find pictures and vids of cars being wrecked due to 'poor handling' etc I really suggest that Porsche owners STFU at this point and stay very quiet... actually for that matter IIRC BMW had a very poor rep for chucking cars arsewards into the scenery....

Edited by irocfan on Wednesday 20th February 22:09

TomV8

387 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Great choice of car, I love the Viper, but am I the only one a bit disappointed by the article itself? Terrible choice of accompanying video, the word 'gosh' used twice, and a few inaccuracies thrown in. This is the kind of thing I'd expect in the forums, not the PH authored articles themselves!

Ps, I do wonder about all this talk of the ethereal 30mpg in a yank V8, it appears to be a benchmark for some reason. I've not seen 20mpg in my Chevy V8, let alone 30!

fatboy18

18,957 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Got to love the fu-ckwits posting on this thread rolleyes

Dodge Viper, what a heap of dung, who the hell would want one of those.

Much rather have a Good looking Euro box that looks the same as everyone else's Good looking Euro box

Yea there American so there built like crap, Probably have never won any races either rolleyes

Who the hell would want one of these rolleyes

Why is it Every time the word 'American' is mentioned the trolls come out of the woodwork and slag off everything about them? ......Don't bother answering that, I could not be bothered to hear your comments.

Fartgalen

6,641 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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TomV8 said:
Great choice of car, I love the Viper, but am I the only one a bit disappointed by the article itself? Terrible choice of accompanying video, the word 'gosh' used twice, and a few inaccuracies thrown in. This is the kind of thing I'd expect in the forums, not the PH authored articles themselves!

Ps, I do wonder about all this talk of the ethereal 30mpg in a yank V8, it appears to be a benchmark for some reason. I've not seen 20mpg in my Chevy V8, let alone 30!
It's possible (on a run) is what I and most people with actual experience of these cars've said. I've done it with a supercharged V8 Mustang, and with the Viper. Whether I'd do it all the time is completely another matter.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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phil_cardiff said:
Captain Muppet said:
zubair said:
We are in 2013 and yet with all the information and facts available in seconds we still have so called humans that still remain to be sheep followers.
Is this about the Welsh?
Enjoy your rump of lamb on Sunday wink
Ha, like I can afford named meat. Frozen lasagne for me this weekend.

ultrastapler

197 posts

156 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Silver is not a good colour for a GTS is it?

Blue with white viper stripes and now you are talking cloud9

Ginja

1,018 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Fartgalen said:
It's possible (on a run) is what I and most people with actual experience of these cars've said. I've done it with a supercharged V8 Mustang, and with the Viper. Whether I'd do it all the time is completely another matter.
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Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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V88Dicky said:
Late model Chevy Impala.

Now you're talkin'

cloud9
To be fair that's a far better car than a 1.2 corsa which is where it stands in terms of cost to buy/lease/rental car in it's home market.

Should add I'm biased because I drove a 3.9 ltz through death valley and it performed flawlessly even with some 'extreme' off road desert action in 115 degree temps.

Edited by Motorrad on Wednesday 20th February 17:20

Guvernator

13,172 posts

166 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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I've loved them ever since I saw Eddie Murphy shred the tyres on one in The Nutty Professor, they just look like nothing else and who can argue with a 8 litre V10. Sure it might not be as competent or as usable in the UK as a Cayman but you are comparing a poster car of generation to a competent but ultimately very dull German sports car and any die in the wool petrol head who says they'd prefer owning the Cayman over this absolutely mental car is missing a soul IMO.

mikEsprit

828 posts

187 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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A buddy got to put on about 300 miles on the company viper back in the 90's. He wasn't impressed due to the stiffness and it being uncomfortable, but it had endless power.

I've always like their looks, but there must be something wrong with them due to how uncommon they are in the US.

menoy

142 posts

135 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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From my childhood, I remember the Viper as an excessive brute, a mound of muscle. Having just read this article after reading the one on the P1's technicals I see 450hp and think - is that really all?


Damn... we really have come along way...

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Motorrad said:
V88Dicky said:
Late model Chevy Impala.

Now you're talkin'

cloud9
To be fair that's a far better car than a 1.2 corsa which is where it stands in terms of cost to buy/lease/rental car in it's home market.

Should add I'm biased because I drove a 3.9 ltz through death valley and it performed flawlessly even with some 'extreme' off road desert action in 115 degree temps.

Edited by Motorrad on Wednesday 20th February 17:20
That Impala is significantly worse at everything than a USDM Hyundai Sonata. I spent a month in each of them during a lovely winter in Indiana. The Impala was a massive disapointment.

LotusOmega375D

7,681 posts

154 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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The asking price would buy you one of the lowest mileage and mintest Ferrari 456s in the country. That's a direct contemporary to the GTS and cost £170k new, with similar power/performance as well as a couple of extra cylinders and kiddie seats. Dodge or Ferrari? Hmm, tricky.

PS: I have always liked the GTS, but not at that price.

collateral

7,238 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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BrightYellowTVR said:
I'm pretty sure I let this car go past me a few months back - anyone on here?

Made my day thumbup

Amirhussain

11,490 posts

164 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Not a fan of the colour, would have mine with blue with white stripes.

Viper_Larry

4,319 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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ultrastapler said:
Silver is not a good colour for a GTS is it?

Blue with white viper stripes and now you are talking cloud9
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Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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The yellow and black Viper in the link the article is great, belongs or belonged to a member off here, who has already posted in this thread. What a sound!

As for the Viper having "only" 400bhp at first, it had 490ft/lb of torque too, and produced 90% of it's peak torque from 1800rpm according to an article I read in EVO. That thing will just go in any gear. You might think it's too wide, too cartoonish or crass for UK roads. But some of the roads I saw in America, coupled with the price of gas and the rugged mechanical toughness inherent to American performance cars, if I was a rich guy, there's nothing else I'd rather be driving on a regular basis.

anything fast

983 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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LotusOmega375D said:
The asking price would buy you one of the lowest mileage and mintest Ferrari 456s in the country. That's a direct contemporary to the GTS and cost £170k new, with similar power/performance as well as a couple of extra cylinders and kiddie seats. Dodge or Ferrari? Hmm, tricky.

PS: I have always liked the GTS, but not at that price.
ahh yes the 456, the ugliest Ferrari ever made, and as a result the cheapest modern(ish) Ferrari you can buy.

The Viper is a raw muscle car, massive engine, lots of noise, drama and presence, the total opposite of the 456. I know which one will hold up as a classic and which one will be unloved in years to come. No doubt which is the better CAR, but thats not what PH is about, otherwise we would all drive a Kia. wink

F1GTRUeno

6,365 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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BrightYellowTVR said:
I don't think the photo of that example shows the Vipers at its best..heres a few more..defo take the Viper every time!


IMG_9754 by Ukjonnyboy, on Flickr
Now apologies to the owner if he's on here but I've never been a fan of this one.

Think it looks terribly tacky and nowhere near as good as the racing car it's supposed to be aping. Especially the splitter on the front looks awful.

He's got a Viper and I've got a Corsa though, so I guess I should pipe down.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Captain Muppet said:
That Impala is significantly worse at everything than a USDM Hyundai Sonata. I spent a month in each of them during a lovely winter in Indiana. The Impala was a massive disapointment.


A Sonata? Obviously that's a better car in the US market, class leading IMO.

However you were calling an Impala on a thread on a UK website and it's streets ahead of the ste you'd buy for similar money in the septic isle....the 1.2 corsa I mentioned as point in fact....