RE: PH Carpool: Ferrari 550 Barchetta
Discussion
rtz62 said:
A good write up.
But the car is like a tiger; beautiful to look at but you really wouldn't want to own one. Unless you are a masochist...
To be fair, the only thing you've got to put up with is a crap roof (the windscreen thing is news to me), the rest of it is fine.But the car is like a tiger; beautiful to look at but you really wouldn't want to own one. Unless you are a masochist...
Perhaps it makes more sense if it's one toy amongst a few!
I love these special Pininfarina little boats......
Whilst i think the roll hoops do little for the aesthetics - they wouls seem to be more of a crucial structural element than i had previously thought.
The car must be worth £150k now and was purchased new for £178k 11 years ago...... if you factor in the depreciation and running costs offsetting each other - then i bet there are plenty of you that have lost way more cash on buying new or nearly new 3-series BMW's and such a-like in the same period of time!! Hell, my Mum's probably lost more buying new Nissan Notes every couple of years.
Seriously, how many cars (excluding million euro exotica) can reward you with so little depreciation and afford you the memories and experiences that a car like this can.....
Whilst i think the roll hoops do little for the aesthetics - they wouls seem to be more of a crucial structural element than i had previously thought.
The car must be worth £150k now and was purchased new for £178k 11 years ago...... if you factor in the depreciation and running costs offsetting each other - then i bet there are plenty of you that have lost way more cash on buying new or nearly new 3-series BMW's and such a-like in the same period of time!! Hell, my Mum's probably lost more buying new Nissan Notes every couple of years.
Seriously, how many cars (excluding million euro exotica) can reward you with so little depreciation and afford you the memories and experiences that a car like this can.....
ZesPak said:
Angelp said:
£2,500 for a windscreen? Do Autoglass Repair not carry these?
it's not the £2500 that would worry me, but the fact that he's on his third in what I understand is about 20k miles 
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Happy Jim said:
mat205125 said:
Given the rarity of the car, and the perfect (IMO) colour combo .... and trying to not sound vulgar .... how much will the car have depreciated over it's life? Is there potential for a car like this to have cost the owner £0 in depreciation over his ownership, and even with the costs of servicing and such like, therefore cost little more than a string of brand new family hatchs would have over the same time (albeit not mileage)
There's a low milage white one in the classifieds for £170K, so possibly not as awful on the face of it.Limpet said:
I find it hard to reconcile:
"I bought it new, £178,000 (ouch)"
With
"The Ferrari roof is utterly useless and ugly, requires two people to put it on, and it flies off at 70 mph and crashes into the boot causing damage.....coolant leaks from the V, failing alarm sirens, the wipers WILL hit the bonnet no matter how much adjustment you give them... You can crack the windscreen by lowering yourself into the car holding onto the top of the screen surround"
These are design faults that have no place in a £10,000 car, never mind a £178,000 one.
The problem is development costs, yes from our perspective, you're spending 18x what you would spend on a shopping hatch."I bought it new, £178,000 (ouch)"
With
"The Ferrari roof is utterly useless and ugly, requires two people to put it on, and it flies off at 70 mph and crashes into the boot causing damage.....coolant leaks from the V, failing alarm sirens, the wipers WILL hit the bonnet no matter how much adjustment you give them... You can crack the windscreen by lowering yourself into the car holding onto the top of the screen surround"
These are design faults that have no place in a £10,000 car, never mind a £178,000 one.
But from the manufacturers perspective, it's the development cost.
They'll typically sell 2M shopping hatches over a 4year life span, spending a few hundred million on development.
Ferrari sold 3083 550's (according to Wikipedia)
The volumes aren't there to justify the investment.
astra la vista said:
Happy Jim said:
mat205125 said:
Given the rarity of the car, and the perfect (IMO) colour combo .... and trying to not sound vulgar .... how much will the car have depreciated over it's life? Is there potential for a car like this to have cost the owner £0 in depreciation over his ownership, and even with the costs of servicing and such like, therefore cost little more than a string of brand new family hatchs would have over the same time (albeit not mileage)
There's a low milage white one in the classifieds for £170K, so possibly not as awful on the face of it.(About the roof : there is no roof. It's a barchetta godammit, it's supposed to be driven top down only. They give you a thing just in case it rains overnight and you cannot park it underground but that's not really meant to be used
)Edited by MartiniBianco on Monday 25th February 19:24
I often wonder why us TVR owners get so much stick for reliability issues when the exotica generally have far more and, expensive issues in comparison.
I really wanted a lambo, but clutches that last 2.5k and cost the same to replace put me off, i also wanted a masser Quatroporte but it has even worse electrical reliabilty than something with a Lucas label on it.
Whilst my Grief has cost me dearly over the years, i think i have probably saved overall having not gone for pure bred exotica.
I really wanted a lambo, but clutches that last 2.5k and cost the same to replace put me off, i also wanted a masser Quatroporte but it has even worse electrical reliabilty than something with a Lucas label on it.
Whilst my Grief has cost me dearly over the years, i think i have probably saved overall having not gone for pure bred exotica.
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