RE: SOTW: Fiat Coupe

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J4CKO

41,634 posts

201 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Seem to remember there were a few 4wd ones built by enthusiasts

sugerbear

4,057 posts

159 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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16v(Turbo) - more cambelt changes/lack of 5th cylinder/high mileage engines that been repaired post cambelt failure will die.

20v(Turbo) - Reliable but the list of parts that need replacing can be long. Poorly maintained examples are a money pit.

I had a 20v Turbo, LE and a PLUS (in that order). I still find it difficult to bring myself to buy anything with a 4 cylinder engine and I miss the LE with its boudoir interior.

richb77

887 posts

162 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I always lusted after a 20v turbo. Not sure what the difference between the 5cyl and 4 is but its a cracking SOTW this week smile

CAPP0

19,601 posts

204 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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C.A.R. said:
I saw one of these in pearl white recently and thought it looked really good. Mild barry mods but otherwise really smart.
Where did you see that? The Pearl White model has an almost mythical status as it was never a UK colour offered by dealers. If it was a real Pearly, it would be one of maybe just 2 or 3 ever imported and would carry a very considerable premium over just about any other Fiat Coupe. I'd be very surprised if it were genuine and had been "barried".

May of course have been a respray but even those are few & far between.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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They are great cars, I like the interior in particular especially on the plus models but I'd take the 20V over the 16v anyday and just make sure the previous owner had recently done the cambelt etc.

Drakey52

115 posts

142 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Had a 20V Turbo for a year or so. Always felt like it was going to break, but never actually did. Few electrical gremlins. Usual cracked exhaust manifold.

The engine was too much for the rest of the car in the wet but good fun otherwise.

Mate of mine had a 16V Turbo that was an mechanical and electrical money pit.

I would go for the 20V for the sheer fun factor and noise.


irocfan

40,541 posts

191 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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great shed TBH, love the metal panel in the cabin and I also like the marmite looks - 5 cylinder for me please smile

sugerbear

4,057 posts

159 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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richb77 said:
I always lusted after a 20v turbo. Not sure what the difference between the 5cyl and 4 is but its a cracking SOTW this week smile
Just the way they feel to drive. The 5 cylinder is smoother, sounds better, has better mpg and more power.

coupe20VT

20 posts

198 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I've got one of these (20VT LE) and its one of the best cars I've owned. It has been very reliable, fun to own, sounds great and is full of character which you don't get with a lot of cars. Its also great to be able to keep up with much more modern machinery if you feel the need such as the current breed of hothatches for much less outlay.

There is a great owners club who are always helpful and organise events (www.fccuk.org/forum) and numerous specialists out there such as Motormech, Midlandcarservicing, Poweritalia and FCperformance.

These cars are also highly tuneable as well with 300bhp atainable without too much outlay (turbo and intercooler upgrade, remap). There are several supercar slayers about too with over 500bhp. Torqueitalia specialize in building performance engines for Fiat Coupe.

The big jobs that cost a bit of money are the cambelt, clutch, exhaust manifold and turbo so if you are looking at buying one see if these have been done recently.

Zircon

305 posts

182 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I have a love / hate relationship with the styling of these. The back never looked right to me and the front lights were weird, so too the slashes. As the author says though, there is nothing overall that makes me dislike it.

Wouldn't swap it for my MR2 Turbo though - 1 second quicker to 60 in standard form and equally as tuneable.

The Fiat is rarer now though and the Pininfarina badge is something of a legend to have adorned on it.

Good shed - they just don't make cars like these any more.

wal 45

667 posts

181 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Been an owner for over 4 years now and love these cars, look after them and they can be a reliable everyday proposition as well as practical. I think you'd really have to want a 16V though as the 20V cars are the same value (generally) and sound a lot better, a drive in a badly tuned 16V sent me to a 20V.

Poweritalia in Basildon stopped working on 16V cars a couple of years now but the other specialists like FCSS, Motormech etc will and I suppose you get all the integrale tuning guys as well.

I can't recommend the Fiat Coupe enough as it is still a great car and to be honest when was the last one you saw on the road?


myhandle

1,194 posts

175 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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SMGB said:
I friend had a 20v from new in that blue that only the 20v turbos came in.
Sprint Blue.

A friend of mine has two of these, a well-used red 20v Turbo that he uses daily and a pristine yellow 20v Turbo. I have been in the red one and it's pretty good. Previously he had a 16v Turbo which of course has the integrale-derived engine. I drove that one and it was a really nice car. He hasn't had all that many problems with any of them, they just need to be properly looked after.

garypotter

1,506 posts

151 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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What a small world, only this wednesday I passed a red 20v turbo in mint looking condition on the A3, got to work and had a discussion about not seeing many on the road for years and now one pops up on SOTW.

Lot of car for beer money.

JoeBolt

272 posts

163 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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You could always put a 1.9 diesel engine in it. (No, it's not mine!)


Fishy Dave

1,027 posts

246 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I owned two previously, great cars in so many ways - looks, sound, performance and the FCCUK community. I wouldn't worry about one with miles, just look for one that has had as many of the common or large bills taken care of (manifold, oil cooler, clutch, cam belt, turbo, wishbones). If they were rwd I would probably still have one.

Dave

DavidCane

853 posts

242 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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I had a 20vt+ and loved every second of it. I replaced the worn shocks with Bilstein B6, which are aboslutely excellent on this car. Throughly recommend getting one, if you can find a good, well loved example.

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Have owned three of these and they are fantastic - so much character and style (especially inside) and with the sort of performance which modern hot hatches have only just caught up with 15 years + later.

BUT - I can't believe no one has pointed out the fact that Fiat no longer makes parts for these. Need a new oil cool (which eventually you will)?? Then it's either a scrap merchant or some kind of botch job. This is why numbers of Fiat coupes have suddenly dropped over the last couple of years and why i would never buy another one now.

If you absolutely have to, ignore the 16V advice. 20vt is better in every way and sounds fantastic. Check:

Clutch
Wishbones
Exhaust manifold
Oil cooler pipes
Cylinder compression
Turbo seals
Track rod ends
Wheel bearings
Then check the wishbones again as they will probably have perished whilst you were checking the other stuff. Great cars in their time but because Fiat are crap and always wanted to disown the car, no longer a viable proposition.


Edited by macky17 on Friday 1st March 11:52

herebebeasties

671 posts

220 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Some years ago in my Elise, I was pulled over by the French BiB who were driving an unmarked 20V Turbo. cop
I thought it looked great even then. ;-)

julians

135 posts

285 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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terrible cars, I owned a 20v turbo for a year or so back in 2001.

Looks nice, quite fast in a straight line. Terrible handling, terrible brakes, mine was fairly unreliable (put a conrod through the block at 48000 miles)

herebebeasties

671 posts

220 months

Friday 1st March 2013
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Oh, and shed has turned up a 20V before: http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=162&i=197...