RE: Ferrari F150 vs McLaren P1: PH Blog
Discussion
RobGT81 said:
Guvernator said:
Have to agree with this tbh, Mclaren just got shown how to make a hypercar.
No replacement for displacement! Especially when its a V12 that does 9250rpm!I seriously assumed the Ferrari would be prettier but that Mclaren given their engineering expertise would be better technically but on first impressions, they've been well and truely spanked on both fronts.
C36 Nico said:
Koeningsegg need to make an NA engine and develop another shell rather than that UGLY CCX model which has been rehashed for 10 years now. Until then no ta
Do you know much about Koenigsegg?http://www.koenigsegg.com/models/agera-r/
Thats the Agera R, the engine produces 1140hp and weighs less than 200kg IIRC. Do you have any concept of how impressive that is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_qxKWMsVw
Watch that 30minute video before mentioning again Koenigsegg please.
StottyZr said:
C36 Nico said:
Koeningsegg need to make an NA engine and develop another shell rather than that UGLY CCX model which has been rehashed for 10 years now. Until then no ta
Do you know much about Koenigsegg?http://www.koenigsegg.com/models/agera-r/
Thats the Agera R, the engine produces 1140hp and weighs less than 200kg IIRC. Do you have any concept of how impressive that is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_qxKWMsVw
Watch that 30minute video before mentioning again Koenigsegg please.
Guvernator said:
StottyZr said:
C36 Nico said:
Koeningsegg need to make an NA engine and develop another shell rather than that UGLY CCX model which has been rehashed for 10 years now. Until then no ta
Do you know much about Koenigsegg?http://www.koenigsegg.com/models/agera-r/
Thats the Agera R, the engine produces 1140hp and weighs less than 200kg IIRC. Do you have any concept of how impressive that is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_qxKWMsVw
Watch that 30minute video before mentioning again Koenigsegg please.
It's good that the reveal is polarising views with more clarity.
I have to say that I was in neither particular camp and was looking forward to the F150 reveal but just saw the nose from a Lambo and not much else to genuinely excite. There's no doubt at all that it's a good looking car but my first impression is that it really doesn't bring anything new to the table in looks etc.
At this stage I do think the P1 has it. But it's all down to how it evolves in the mind over the coming days.
I have to say that I was in neither particular camp and was looking forward to the F150 reveal but just saw the nose from a Lambo and not much else to genuinely excite. There's no doubt at all that it's a good looking car but my first impression is that it really doesn't bring anything new to the table in looks etc.
At this stage I do think the P1 has it. But it's all down to how it evolves in the mind over the coming days.
Rich_W said:
JustNeil said:
I get the feeling that they are two different cars for two different purposes. Depends if you're buying a car, or a badge really.
The P1 will be a drivers car, small, reliable and relatively easy to drive, which means it'll get used regularly (hopefully)
The F150 or whatever it's going to be called will be a big, wide, shouty primadonna that will be seen parked up in Monaco when the Formula 1 is there, and then go back into it's air conditioned box until next year, along with the F40, F50 and Enzo that also never get driven.
If you want to drive, get a P1. If you want to be looked at, get the Ferrari.
Guess where my money's going...
Yes because apparently a F458 is impossible to live with. Your assumption that Ferrari's are hard to live with is wrong. Old Lambos, yes I'd be with you. But modern Fezzas are just as modern as the competition and just as useable. Neither F150 or P1 or F1 are everyday cars in any case. Even Rowan Atkinson has a Golf The P1 will be a drivers car, small, reliable and relatively easy to drive, which means it'll get used regularly (hopefully)
The F150 or whatever it's going to be called will be a big, wide, shouty primadonna that will be seen parked up in Monaco when the Formula 1 is there, and then go back into it's air conditioned box until next year, along with the F40, F50 and Enzo that also never get driven.
If you want to drive, get a P1. If you want to be looked at, get the Ferrari.
Guess where my money's going...
Although, to be honest, given the way it looks, if I had a 'LaFerrari' I'd probably hide it in the garage too. It's awful!
JustNeil said:
No, my point was not that Ferraris are hard to live with, but that Ferrari owners (especially those of their F40, F50, Enzo hyper cars) are rarely seen driving them and are, in the main, paranoid about actually using them for fear of increasing the mileage. I don't see anyone tlaking about wanting to take their Enzo to 100k miles, like RA with his F1, for example.
Although, to be honest, given the way it looks, if I had a 'LaFerrari' I'd probably hide it in the garage too. It's awful!
Totally agree. This is one of the main problems I have with Ferrari. They are ( mostly ) garage queens. And the market thinks the same thing. Low mileage is super, super important. Try selling a 458 with 40,000 miles on it back to your dealer and prepare to have your trousers pulled down. This does not happen to the same extent with Porsche, for example...Although, to be honest, given the way it looks, if I had a 'LaFerrari' I'd probably hide it in the garage too. It's awful!
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