RE: Toyota GT-86 Convertible: Revealed (sort of)

[budgie smuggler]

Looks good. If only the rear seats were usable

[Hitch78]

I might get one of these - any pics with the lid up?

[Tuvra]

Take out the back seats and make the back end more like this :

[300bhp/ton]

The Crack Fox said:

Twincam16 said:

If it is sensibly priced, then the Mazda MX-5 may no longer be The Answer To Everything.

Good point, the extra weight might blunt the GT86's already slightly gutless performance though, perhaps ?

Gutless??? It's quicker than any production MX-5 ever!

MT also clocked the 86 at 6.2sec 0-60mph and 14.8 @ 94mph over the 1/4 mile. That's pretty much Escort Cosworth pace.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_20...

The engine also makes as much or more torque than just about any other production 2.0 n/a motor.

[TaylotS2K]

Need to see a side profile pic. Got a feeling it's got a horrible bulbous rear like the 350z drop top. Interior looks 'horrible in this colours.

[300bhp/ton]

Tuvra said:

Take out the back seats and make the back end more like this :

What more ugly?

[300bhp/ton]

budgie smuggler said:

Looks good. If only the rear seats were usable

Usable for what though? suspect they are no smaller or less useful than the rear seats in a something like a MINI or a Fiat 500.

[0000]

A person with legs.

[excel monkey]

300bhp/ton said:

MT also clocked the 86 at 6.2sec 0-60mph and 14.8 @ 94mph over the 1/4 mile. That's pretty much Escort Cosworth pace.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_20...

Most of the UK magazines clock the GT86 at around 7.5s for 0-60.

I've noticed this before with Motor Trend performance figures. Do they have a special downhill test track? Or are Toyota US better at fettling their press cars than Toyota UK?

Regarding the convertible, I think it looks great. They should keep the rear seats. Useful for luggage and/or small children, and differentiates the car from the MX5.

[kambites]

0000 said:

A person with legs.

They aren't really designed for adults (2+2s generally aren't), but they'd take a baby seat.

[GranCab]

If Porsche can sell the Boxster for a lot less than the Cayman - why can't Toybaru do the same with this ???

[kambites]

excel monkey said:

300bhp/ton said:

MT also clocked the 86 at 6.2sec 0-60mph and 14.8 @ 94mph over the 1/4 mile. That's pretty much Escort Cosworth pace.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_20...

Most of the UK magazines clock the GT86 at around 7.5s for 0-60.

I've noticed this before with Motor Trend performance figures. Do they have a special downhill test track? Or are Toyota US better at fettling their press cars than Toyota UK?

My guess would be that the Americans measure 0-60 whereas most of the European reviewers measure 0-62. Quite a lot of cars have an extra gear change somewhere around the 60mph mark.

[nonuts]

300bhp/ton said:

MT also clocked the 86 at 6.2sec 0-60mph

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_20...

Interesting they managed so much faster than the manufacturer is quoting.

So our friends across the pond get them for $25k, as always make the price we pay here look a little steep.

[hornetrider]

kambites said:

They aren't really designed for adults (2+2s generally aren't), but they'd take a baby seat.

They'd take a front facing toddler seat. Not a rear facing baby seat.

[Kozy]

Yes, it's now a hairdressers car, however that is only an from people who have no appreciation of cars and thus shouldn't be listened to anyway.

Think I'd probably still go for the coupe, however that does look rather good, certainly better than the current MX5...

[Kozy]

hornetrider said:

They'd take a front facing toddler seat. Not a rear facing baby seat.

They'd take the seat, but you wouldn't be able to put a child in it. Since they're legs are so short, they usually stick straight out, often requiring more legroom than an adult.

[Martin 480 Turbo]

The technical bits are all there,
but uuh is it lacking in the style department.

Couldn't ZAGATO do a version of this?
That would be epic.

[300bhp/ton]

excel monkey said:

300bhp/ton said:

MT also clocked the 86 at 6.2sec 0-60mph and 14.8 @ 94mph over the 1/4 mile. That's pretty much Escort Cosworth pace.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_20...

Most of the UK magazines clock the GT86 at around 7.5s for 0-60.

Actually I'd be amazed if many (or any) UK car mags actually bother with testing. They usually just take the manufacturer or some other articles claimed figures.

What makes it worse is these figures are often 0-60mph which then get republished as 0-60mph. This really pisses me off and is one of the reasons I think most of the UK motoring press are a complete and utter joke.

excel monkey said:

I've noticed this before with Motor Trend performance figures. Do they have a special downhill test track? Or are Toyota US better at fettling their press cars than Toyota UK?

I think it's that they actually drive the cars properly over there and spend much time testing them. Usually there's a vid on YouTube of them doing it too.

Surface grip can and will vary this, and I think they normally do it on a good surface. But at least that makes for consistent results.

Also numpty mags in the UK that do bother to actually test the car, will often do 0-60mph with 2 people, lots of fuel and maybe even luggage or some other st. No idea why as it would only seem to pollute and create false figures compared to what the car is capable of.

[Rawwr]

Martin 480 Turbo said:

Couldn't ZAGATO do a version of this?

MAYBE they COULD but MAYBE they COULDN'T. Who KNOWS. We WILL just HAVE to WAIT and SEE.

[BadBanshee]

hornetrider said:

Roof up pics or gtfo.

Should also just be a two seater.

Why? Are you just thinking of saving a few kilos for performance reasons? Cuz financially, a 2+2 drop top sports car is pretty much totally unique in the market...