RE: Geneva Motor Show 2013: BMW

[Matt320]

I can't see anything THAT offensive about the 3GT. Sure, it's not exactly pretty but there is far worse out there. The current 6 Coupe and Gran Coupe are the best looking cars BMW has built since the E46 IMO.

[Ali_T]

Well, will you look at that. BMW have remade the mid 90s Toyota Carina Liftback..... and it still looks awful.

Edited by Ali_T on Thursday 7th March 00:53

[il sole]

gumsie said:

RossMcQ said:

toppstuff said:

Some people prefer hatchbacks to saloons and don't want an estate.

I am such a person. I'm quite sure there are plenty of us.

And I don't get the collective sheep-like condemnation of the 3 series styling. It looks like a 3 series hatchback. Its a bit late 90's Hyundai in its styling maybe, but its not ugly. Just a bit dull.

And while there are Peugeots on the planet that apparently go relatively uncriticised in the styling department, it seems unfair to single out this car for derision.

I second that.

When did the Touring love-in begin? It doesn’t seem that long ago that they were being criticised for being a ‘lifestyle’ vehicle and not a proper estate, “There’s more room in a Focus etc. etc..”

I for one would prefer a hatch to an estate and I’m going to reserve judgement until I see the 3GT in the flesh.

A straw PH poll of 16 posts so far says you two are in the minority. It's pig ugly.
BMW used to make some good looking cars and this one seems even uglier because of that.
Don't worry I think the CLS is terrible too and the RCZ is really nice. There, I'm not biased.

OK, just to balance it out a bit more, I quite like it...apart from those ridiculous black swooshes behind the front wheels which i guess are meant to look like air vents for the brakes. silly!

However on the touring vs GT front, i run an E91 touring, and wouldn't say no to a new F31, but, trouble is, I cannot fit my 3 kids in the back...the GT would resolve this...

[GTEYE]

Maybe the 3GT is not great....but this is what ugly really looks like....

[talksthetalk]

With the 3GT they're just following Audi.
Up until now BMW will see every Audi A5 5 dr as a lost sale due to not having an equivalent car.
This will suit people who wanted a 3 series but couldn't get one because they need or think they need a hatchback, but don't want an estate because the sierra estate they had in 86 was a bit boomy.

[jezuk]

GTEYE said:

Maybe the 3GT is not great....but this is what ugly really looks like....

It's like the designers went "oh no, we appear to have built a Pontiac Aztec, and that's hidedous - better fix it".

Another vote here for actually not minding the 3'er GT.

[Paul M]

toppstuff said:

Some people prefer hatchbacks to saloons and don't want an estate.

I am such a person. I'm quite sure there are plenty of us.

And I don't get the collective sheep-like condemnation of the 3 series styling. It looks like a 3 series hatchback. Its a bit late 90's Hyundai in its styling maybe, but its not ugly. Just a bit dull.

And while there are Peugeots on the planet that apparently go relatively uncriticised in the styling department, it seems unfair to single out this car for derision.

It appears that BMW have found their market in your good self and I am sure they will sell more.
Unfortunately this is not the only BMW singled out for derision ...... there are now a growing number of them and I say that as a long term BMW owner and enthusiast.

[Luca Brasi]

Ali_T said:

Well, will you look at that. BMW have remade the mid 90s Toyota Avensis Liftback..... and it still looks st.

Edited by Ali_T on Tuesday 5th March 14:34

Good God, massive BMW fan but that just makes me sad and angry. Hope it fails.

[Escort Si-130]

+1 That is just one ugly fker of a car. Hate all the BMW GT st and all the Audi assback crap they have done with the A7 and A5. Whoever designs these vehicles should be shot.

Luca Brasi said:

Good God, massive BMW fan but that just makes me sad and angry. Hope it fails.

[Paul M]

Luca Brasi said:

Good God, massive BMW fan but that just makes me sad and angry. Hope it fails.

I think that sums it up.
We BMW enthusiasts bewildered by their current direction that seems hell bent on producing some cars that a few think they want and designs unloved by those that don't.

[Amirhussain]

Paul M said:

Luca Brasi said:

Good God, massive BMW fan but that just makes me sad and angry. Hope it fails.

I think that sums it up.
We BMW enthusiasts bewildered by their current direction that seems hell bent on producing some cars that a few think they want and designs unloved by those that don't.

BMW don't care about enthusiasts or if some people from the internet don't like it. If it sells, then its all good for them.

[hardeepg]

toppstuff said:

Some people prefer hatchbacks to saloons and don't want an estate.

I agree with this. Currently in the market for a larger car to fit the pram and some shopping, found that the 3ser tourer was too small. Missus doesn't want an estate, and doesn't like the others available. So what's left. Mondeo, insignia/vectra etc. Nothing inspiring in other words, so I think the 3gt is a good move

[em177]

Stu R said:

That M6 Gran Coupe really is a beautiful car.

This

[Donkey62]

I'm sure the Grand Turd will find mass appeal and owners its bland enough with a badge and resell colour, maybe BMW got it right.

[Hub]

Assuming they don't price it too high as some cort of 'coupe' special, the 3 Series GT will probably do well in this country where we love hatchbacks a lot more than saloons.

[johnyt993]

3 series GT is a mess... and i'm REALLY ANNOYED as it will deny me my dream car for a few years (when kids start happening)... the M3 Touring!

[pSyCoSiS]

The 4 Series Coupe will be a stunner - aready like the looks of it...

BMW will sell plenty of the 3GT models... Just like Audi sells shedloads of the Q3 and Q5 models....

There now appears to be a niche at every end of the market!

[will261058]

That 3GT is not too bad and the i8 is starting to look pretty tasty IMO!

[Schermerhorn]

M6 gran coupe = F10 M5 minus one rear seat + £30,000 extra.

[vintageracer01]

I am one of the grimaces: This car is NOT nice to say the least...

BMW, you are keep losing it... Hopefully not as bad as Mercedes does now for years.