RE: Rover 827 Vitesse: PH Ad Break

RE: Rover 827 Vitesse: PH Ad Break

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MonkeySpanker

319 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Vitesse Coupe.

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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MysteryLemon said:
My Mum once had a dark grey Rover 800 fastback. It was an Auto and the box gave her nothing but trouble throughout the time she owned it. Was later replaced with a brand new Rover 620 auto which was a lovely, faultlessly reliable car for the 12 years she owned it.
That's faith in a brand smile

I had loads of trouble from my Toyota so I won't buy another despite liking a few of their products far more than their German rivals.

W124

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1,517 posts

138 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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that video is incredible. Watch it if you haven't.

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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clonmult said:
Z28DUNC said:
My brother had a black 827 vitesse. For a big old car it shifted and handled quite well. 825 was never as good as the Honda engined cars.
Er, the 825 was originally Honda engined ....
As in my previous post i think he his referring to later 825 Rover Kv6



CDP said:
I only had the 1989 820Si fastback but was very fond of it. The best front seats and drivng position of any car I've tried so far and comfortable at any speed I cared to try. Sold with 130,000 miles on the clock and apart from the wipers failing (all the cars in the scrappy had their arms removed too) it was basically reliable.

It was a far nicer place to be than my 1990 Scorpio and despite only being the 2 litre multipoint 16V seemed quite a bit faster than the 2.9 Granny automatic. The Rover handled better too - the Ford wasn't powerful enough for RWD to come into play yet the Rover could lift off oversteer.
Ford brochure had 2.0 manual quicker than 2.9 auto - both were no match for 140bhp 800

Edited by tali1 on Thursday 14th March 17:46

CDP

7,459 posts

254 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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tali1 said:
Ford brochure had 2.0 manual quicker than 2.9 auto - both were no match for 140bhp 800
I never tried the Senator but I suspect it could have whipped both of them.

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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I had an 820 Saloon for a while, the only car I have ever bought because of the seats, mine had the lovely Black, part leather Recaros and big chunky alloys, was a nice blue colour as well. I didnt mind driving it, it moved fairly well considering it was the smallest engine option, certainly wasnt a slug, didnt feel any slower than the Scorprio 2.8i I tried.

I would say mine didnt feel like a barge, more of a large Montego, it didnt waft, was just big and comfy rather than luxorious.

Always thought the coupe was a handsome thing, one of the best looking cars I have seen, but obviously people look at anything British through turd tinted glasses.

They werent the best in the segment, I know that, but they were better than the reputation, anyone I knew with a six cylinder five series from the time seemed to have head gasket/warping issues but nobody seems to remember that.

Stevie750iL

100 posts

149 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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I have the orignal VHS video of Tony Pond taking a red Vitesse around the Isle of Man TT circuit. It's still awesome to watch. And it sounded superb I think I want one.

tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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good example of a precursor to the Audi A5/A7 fastback...never thought I'd see this style of car return so soon.

We had a vitesse sport as our IAM training car when working at MGR. It was lovely to drive. Hugely underrated.

Conversely I drove one of the first 825's back from Cowley on a summer placement early on at rover and hated it.

the facelift was a very well executed refresh, really worked to make it more prestigious (although the early vitesse on 5 spoke alloys still looks crisp).

Stuff the dissenters, it was a pretty car for its day

tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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W124 said:
'England expects, but Austin-Rover struggles to deliver' - I'm sure that was on the cover of CAR when the 800 came out. Shows you how old I am.
I remember this like it was yesterday

kpelise

15 posts

163 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Come on Pistonheads, if you want to show the best car ad ever, it has to be the Renault 5 GT Turbo ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69U0jw9jTUM

taders

15 posts

255 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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My old man had one of these as a company car and it felt fast and made a glorious noise. I'll never forget the tears of anger from Dad but tears of laughter from Mum when he cut the front skirt like cheese as he reversed away from a telegraph pole which had wires to stabilise the pole! Expensive repair and unhappy employers!

firebird350

322 posts

180 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Acquired a family and had to retire my Fiat Strada Abarth in favour of a family-sized car so I bought a 1990 5-door 827 Vitesse. Surprisingly capable machine, good-looking, felt well put together and could sound really quite angry under hard acceleration. Fast too. Cavernous load carrier as well. A friend once commandeered mine to transport not one but two twin-cam 'fours' (alloy-headed but iron-blocked and complete with ancillaries) to his lock-up. Didn't even come close to the bumpstops! The only downside to the driving experience was the complete lack of steering feel. Really was numb and lifeless - such a shame.

tomoleeds

770 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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i owned a 1989 "F" 820 saloon in grey,had no problems and seemed quick at the time.Very coomfy,quiet and held the road well. bought it in 1994 for £1,100,no rust,everything worked

Digga

40,300 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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CDP said:
tali1 said:
Ford brochure had 2.0 manual quicker than 2.9 auto - both were no match for 140bhp 800
I never tried the Senator but I suspect it could have whipped both of them.
I think the 3.0 s6 Senator might've struggled on handling.

Between '88 and '91 the old man had first a 2.0 Carlton and then a 2.0 Granada and reckoned the latter handled way better.

A Carlton GSi3000 on the other hand, perhaps.

Limpet

6,307 posts

161 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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During my short spell in the motor trade in the early 90's, I remember more than one customer storming out angrily when told that their immaculate, fully serviced, 30,000 mile three year old 820 was worth £4k as a trade in....

Quite a few staff snapped them up when they came in as part-exes. They were ridiculous value on the secondhand market, but at stand-in value plus fifty quid (standard staff rate), they were almost too cheap to be true.

Edited by Limpet on Wednesday 13th March 16:27

barlers

18 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Bit of dodgy research at the beginning of the article - it was the Rover 214/216 series (not 213/216) and it was based on the Honda Concerto, not the Ballade.

I only know this because I had a 214 and it was a good little car smile

LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Tracked_Out said:
LewisR said:
Maybe it's the Schwaben accent these guys have but what's said (in German) here:

Schnell?
Ja, in England ?????? "Fastback".

I'd expect "heisst es", "die Name ist" or somesuch.
It's: "In England, nennen sie es 'Fastback'..." > literally translated to: "In England they name/call it 'Fastback'..."

The German verb "nennen" is to name/to call.
Ah, of course. Thanks. Was always taught and heard "sie heissen" etc.

Scrof

197 posts

154 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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barlers said:
Bit of dodgy research at the beginning of the article - it was the Rover 214/216 series (not 213/216) and it was based on the Honda Concerto, not the Ballade.

I only know this because I had a 214 and it was a good little car smile
The research is sound - you're thinking of the R8, not the earlier SD3. See here for more info:

http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/cars/rover/213-216...

nerd

barlers

18 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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That's me told! Sorry Scrof, I should have known better smash

Scrof

197 posts

154 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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No problem chap smile