RE: Rover 827 Vitesse: PH Ad Break
Discussion
Noonehere said:
Fond memories of these, growing up my Dad had two as company cars. A blue / grey F reg manual and a J reg auto. Have always liked the shape, however dated.
Remember them going quite well and sounding good. J618 OPC, wonder where it is now?
According to the DVLA possibly no more;Remember them going quite well and sounding good. J618 OPC, wonder where it is now?
Date of Liability 03 07 2004
Date of First Registration 12 08 1991
Year of Manufacture 1991
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2675cc
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type PETROL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available
I remember this advert from when I was a kid. Love it.
I've had two of these, one in this shape with the "Tickford" turbo engine and the other a later shape Vitesse Sport (2.0 turbo rather than the Honda or Rover V6). Until the (stupid, cheap, plastic caged) gearbox bearings gave up on the Vit, neither had been especially unreliable, particularly when you remember that both were well within Shed budget when I bought them.
I've had two of these, one in this shape with the "Tickford" turbo engine and the other a later shape Vitesse Sport (2.0 turbo rather than the Honda or Rover V6). Until the (stupid, cheap, plastic caged) gearbox bearings gave up on the Vit, neither had been especially unreliable, particularly when you remember that both were well within Shed budget when I bought them.
JaguarsportXJR said:
I remember this advert from when I was a kid. Love it.
I've had two of these, one in this shape with the "Tickford" turbo engine and the other a later shape Vitesse Sport (2.0 turbo rather than the Honda or Rover V6). Until the (stupid, cheap, plastic caged) gearbox bearings gave up on the Vit, neither had been especially unreliable, particularly when you remember that both were well within Shed budget when I bought them.
There's a very nice looking Tickford Turbo on eBay right now. I have a serious soft spot for the XX shape 800.....I've had two of these, one in this shape with the "Tickford" turbo engine and the other a later shape Vitesse Sport (2.0 turbo rather than the Honda or Rover V6). Until the (stupid, cheap, plastic caged) gearbox bearings gave up on the Vit, neither had been especially unreliable, particularly when you remember that both were well within Shed budget when I bought them.
I had three of them! First was an 820i that I remember belting round the 'Ring in the rain with a friend videoing it from the passenger seat..I remember the tyre squealing & the total lack of brakes as we came off the circuit at Adenau exit!
It got nicked from outside the works with 130000 miles on it (bet the thief was pissed off!) Replaced it with another. Then started a business so bought an old 827 as a shed. replaced it after 12 months (no bothers) That one with another which I kept for 18 months & replaced with a 6 month old A4 2.8 Quattro ( new business going well!) that kept unlocking itself & all the windows coming down as you walked away! I made the garage take it back & find me another. They did & I had a 2 day session at Donington on Audi for my troubles! That also did 130000 miles. Just realised it was Four od 'em!
It got nicked from outside the works with 130000 miles on it (bet the thief was pissed off!) Replaced it with another. Then started a business so bought an old 827 as a shed. replaced it after 12 months (no bothers) That one with another which I kept for 18 months & replaced with a 6 month old A4 2.8 Quattro ( new business going well!) that kept unlocking itself & all the windows coming down as you walked away! I made the garage take it back & find me another. They did & I had a 2 day session at Donington on Audi for my troubles! That also did 130000 miles. Just realised it was Four od 'em!
JaguarsportXJR said:
I remember this advert from when I was a kid. Love it.
I've had two of these, one in this shape with the "Tickford" turbo engine and the other a later shape Vitesse Sport (2.0 turbo rather than the Honda or Rover V6). Until the (stupid, cheap, plastic caged) gearbox bearings gave up on the Vit, neither had been especially unreliable, particularly when you remember that both were well within Shed budget when I bought them.
Many years ago a friend bought a very cheap 820 Vitesse Sport, being sold because the gearbox was making horrible noises. He managed to drive it nearly all the way back (~150 miles) before it stopped dead and had to be recovered a few miles from home. Whilst taking the gearbox out he went to drain the oil...and nothing came out. When the box was removed the reason for the noise became obvious, not the diff bearings as expected (though they were probably shot) but the pin that holds the planet gears in the diff had come loose and machined all the way through the diff cover. The planet gears had finally fallen loose and jammed everything up. I presume it wasn't the original box as I think they all had the Torsen LSD as standard?I've had two of these, one in this shape with the "Tickford" turbo engine and the other a later shape Vitesse Sport (2.0 turbo rather than the Honda or Rover V6). Until the (stupid, cheap, plastic caged) gearbox bearings gave up on the Vit, neither had been especially unreliable, particularly when you remember that both were well within Shed budget when I bought them.
Digga said:
CDP said:
tali1 said:
Ford brochure had 2.0 manual quicker than 2.9 auto - both were no match for 140bhp 800
I never tried the Senator but I suspect it could have whipped both of them.Between '88 and '91 the old man had first a 2.0 Carlton and then a 2.0 Granada and reckoned the latter handled way better.
A Carlton GSi3000 on the other hand, perhaps.
I sold a 820 Vitesse for a neighbour a few years back - it was the turbo version and it was quite lively - it had a whole heap of other faults mind
I have a late vitesse on a trip plate. I have no electrical problems. The car goes very well. The interior is an lovely place to be with half leather recaros.The only problem is the plastic caged bearings in the box(which is a Honda box) god forbid the only thing wrong with my Rover is something made by Honda. These are great cars and everybody that has been in mine have commented on how nice it is. Rovers have always been reliable for me. I've had Germany cars and japanese cars and guess what the rover is and was much more reliable. The vw golf had so many electrical problems and has a coolant leak which I spent loads on but still never fixed. I had a Honda Civic and the car suffered hgf. But the Rovers have been great just this gearbox which will be rebuilt.
I think people that moan about Rovers just like jumping on the bandwagon
I think people that moan about Rovers just like jumping on the bandwagon
LewisR said:
Tracked_Out said:
LewisR said:
Maybe it's the Schwaben accent these guys have but what's said (in German) here:
Schnell?
Ja, in England ?????? "Fastback".
I'd expect "heisst es", "die Name ist" or somesuch.
It's: "In England, nennen sie es 'Fastback'..." > literally translated to: "In England they name/call it 'Fastback'..."Schnell?
Ja, in England ?????? "Fastback".
I'd expect "heisst es", "die Name ist" or somesuch.
The German verb "nennen" is to name/to call.
Sogenannt means so-called, which I find amusing. Probably because it's so very tabloid in English.
I have had countless 800's with all engine variants.........I was converted as a plod we used to use them as traffic cars and I loved my 827 fastback.........the auto gearbox needed to be driven as a manual to make progress and in fairness a well driven manual would be a hard car to keep up with. The engine was both powerful, smooth and sounded great under power (listen to them on police, camera, action).........the seats were extremely comfy and the only questionable bits were the dubious electrics and weak auto and the s
te KV6 engine. I would buy a manual series 2 in a flash, they are nicer to drive although I always liked the look of a series 1 saloon.........well done Royden Axe RIP..........I have done bucket loads of miles in em and I love em!
te KV6 engine. I would buy a manual series 2 in a flash, they are nicer to drive although I always liked the look of a series 1 saloon.........well done Royden Axe RIP..........I have done bucket loads of miles in em and I love em!B'stard Child said:
Digga said:
CDP said:
tali1 said:
Ford brochure had 2.0 manual quicker than 2.9 auto - both were no match for 140bhp 800
I never tried the Senator but I suspect it could have whipped both of them.Between '88 and '91 the old man had first a 2.0 Carlton and then a 2.0 Granada and reckoned the latter handled way better.
A Carlton GSi3000 on the other hand, perhaps.
I sold a 820 Vitesse for a neighbour a few years back - it was the turbo version and it was quite lively - it had a whole heap of other faults mind
http://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/3032...
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2749/4368110160_7ed4...
tali1 said:
Senator seems to have top end pull
http://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/3032...
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2749/4368110160_7ed4...
0..60 ranges between 10.1 and 11.6 seconds for the highest spec executive cars. Admittedly on old style automatics.http://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/3032...
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2749/4368110160_7ed4...
My 100bhp diesel Vectra is quoted at 11.5 seconds (I think it's to 62 as well) and it's pretty basic but 11 to 12 seconds is pretty much the norm for that class of car. Interesting how performance has improved over the last 20 odd years.
rcs5158 said:
I have had countless 800's with all engine variants.........I was converted as a plod we used to use them as traffic cars and I loved my 827 fastback.........the auto gearbox needed to be driven as a manual to make progress and in fairness a well driven manual would be a hard car to keep up with. The engine was both powerful, smooth and sounded great under power (listen to them on police, camera, action).........the seats were extremely comfy and the only questionable bits were the dubious electrics and weak auto and the ste KV6 engine. I would buy a manual series 2 in a flash, they are nicer to drive although I always liked the look of a series 1 saloon.........well done Royden Axe RIP..........I have done bucket loads of miles in em and I love em!
Strange. As a kid I spent an unhealthy amount of time drooling over Rover brochures. I grew up admiring SD1's and when the 800 was launched I thought (and still do) that it had one of the very best interiors of any large car of the time. As for the fact that the Police used had used P6's, SD1's and now 800's was all the proof I needed at the time that Rovers ruled.te KV6 engine. I would buy a manual series 2 in a flash, they are nicer to drive although I always liked the look of a series 1 saloon.........well done Royden Axe RIP..........I have done bucket loads of miles in em and I love em!Strange thing is I could never love the 800 series shape at launch. As I think someone said at the 800's unveiling "It looks like Roy Axe had designed a Nissan". Hard to swallow but I think I'd be inclined to agree. Which is strange as I think Roy Axe penned both the MG EXE and the Rover CCV which were both great.
As for the 800 facelift? In my opinion, the addition of that reinterpreted classic P5 grille, the suggestion of more power from the more contoured bonnet, the well judged and executed wider rubbing strips and the chamfering off of the tail end of the rear wings catapulted the 800 from a car styled with a ruler into what was a great looking executive saloon.
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rcs5158 said:
I have had countless 800's with all engine variants.........I was converted as a plod we used to use them as traffic cars and I loved my 827 fastback.........the auto gearbox needed to be driven as a manual to make progress and in fairness a well driven manual would be a hard car to keep up with. The engine was both powerful, smooth and sounded great under power (listen to them on police, camera, action).........the seats were extremely comfy and the only questionable bits were the dubious electrics and weak auto and the ste KV6 engine. I would buy a manual series 2 in a flash, they are nicer to drive although I always liked the look of a series 1 saloon.........well done Royden Axe RIP..........I have done bucket loads of miles in em and I love em!
Strange. As a kid I spent an unhealthy amount of time drooling over Rover brochures. I grew up admiring SD1's and when the 800 was launched I thought (and still do) that it had one of the very best interiors of any large car of the time. As for the fact that the Police used had used P6's, SD1's and now 800's was all the proof I needed at the time that Rovers ruled.
Strange thing is I could never love the 800 series shape at launch. As I think someone said at the 800's unveiling "It looks like Roy Axe had designed a Nissan". Hard to swallow but I think I'd be inclined to agree. Which is strange as I think Roy Axe penned both the MG EXE and the Rover CCV which were both great.
As for the 800 facelift? In my opinion, the addition of that reinterpreted classic P5 grille, the suggestion of more power from the more contoured bonnet, the well judged and executed wider rubbing strips and the chamfering off of the tail end of the rear wings catapulted the 800 from a car styled with a ruler into what was a great looking executive saloon.
I remember reading somewhere that Axe said he was tied as in what he could do to the body styling due to the restrictions laid down by Honda and the XX project, the ride was always very unsettled on the series one in comparison to the revised car. The same could be said of the steering (they didn't have great lock btw) as the series 2 is a smoother and more comfortable car to drive. Even Clarkson liked it on Top Gear (good to see on you tube)..........styling is all subjective but it's hard to believe at one stage the 800 was the UK's best selling exec car, and not in a bad way either!
rcs5158 said:
I have had countless 800's with all engine variants.........I was converted as a plod we used to use them as traffic cars and I loved my 827 fastback.........the auto gearbox needed to be driven as a manual to make progress and in fairness a well driven manual would be a hard car to keep up with. The engine was both powerful, smooth and sounded great under power (listen to them on police, camera, action).........the seats were extremely comfy and the only questionable bits were the dubious electrics and weak auto and the ste KV6 engine. I would buy a manual series 2 in a flash, they are nicer to drive although I always liked the look of a series 1 saloon.........well done Royden Axe RIP..........I have done bucket loads of miles in em and I love em!
Strange. As a kid I spent an unhealthy amount of time drooling over Rover brochures. I grew up admiring SD1's and when the 800 was launched I thought (and still do) that it had one of the very best interiors of any large car of the time. As for the fact that the Police used had used P6's, SD1's and now 800's was all the proof I needed at the time that Rovers ruled.
Strange thing is I could never love the 800 series shape at launch. As I think someone said at the 800's unveiling "It looks like Roy Axe had designed a Nissan". Hard to swallow but I think I'd be inclined to agree. Which is strange as I think Roy Axe penned both the MG EXE and the Rover CCV which were both great.
As for the 800 facelift? In my opinion, the addition of that reinterpreted classic P5 grille, the suggestion of more power from the more contoured bonnet, the well judged and executed wider rubbing strips and the chamfering off of the tail end of the rear wings catapulted the 800 from a car styled with a ruler into what was a great looking executive saloon.
I remember reading somewhere that Axe said he was tied as in what he could do to the body styling due to the restrictions laid down by Honda and the XX project, the ride was always very unsettled on the series one in comparison to the revised car. The same could be said of the steering (they didn't have great lock btw) as the series 2 is a smoother and more comfortable car to drive. Even Clarkson liked it on Top Gear (good to see on you tube)..........styling is all subjective but it's hard to believe at one stage the 800 was the UK's best selling exec car, and not in a bad way either!
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