RE: Spotted: Honda Prelude Motegi

[havoc]

MysteryLemon said:

The Integra is a smaller car than the Prelude. Much more Civic Coupe sized.

Honda really did have a fair selection of Coupes at one point. Far to many really.

Not sure the dimensions are that different, to be honest - DC2 is narrower, certainly, but it's also got more rear legroom and a notably bigger boot than the Prelude. As they're both FF coupes, go figure...

Ref. power - the VTi started at 185bhp, but later ones (not just the Motegi, from memory - believe the VTiS and possibly all later VTi's) got the red-top engine with 200bhp.

It's a bit like the Mk2 MR2 - started life at IIRC 148bhp, ended at closer to 180bhp but you have to be clued-up to know exactly what you're buying...

[BS75]

C.A.R. said:

So where does the Integra Type R fit?

The Prelude 2.2 is more of a 'lazy' engine by all accounts, which makes it more of a cruiser. I can't really see why there was much point in an Accord Coupe...

It isn't a lazy engine, it just redlines 1000rpm lower than the integra, and has more torque through the rev range, making it feel less OMG VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO when VTEC kicks in. y0.

They'll both sit at 4000-5000rpm and give you a headache on a long cruise

[Mudgey]

IMO the only prelude to go for is the Type S with its 217bhp engine, its revised front suspension, weight savings, better interior and most importantly the ATTS which is essentially an electronic LSD.

I wouldn't say 3500rpm at 70mph is headache inducing, and at the end of the day not everybody fits a ricer exhaust to their Honda..

Edited by Mudgey on Thursday 14th March 14:15

[soad]

Mudgey said:

IMO the only prelude to go for is the Type S with its 217bhp engine, its revised front suspension, weight savings, better interior and most importantly the ATTS which is essentially an electronic LSD.

I assume you have one?

[Mudgey]

soad said:

I assume you have one?

Yup Absolutely love the car, with a few subtle mods you can really transform the looks of the car. Currently fitting a supercharged k20 into mine for a bit more poke

Edited by Mudgey on Thursday 14th March 14:20

[GBB]

JonnyO said:

Bought a car from Sarah Cox cars a couple of years ago. They were an absolute pleasure to deal with.

They always have interesting stuff, what's the set up?

[excel monkey]

GBB said:

JonnyO said:

Bought a car from Sarah Cox cars a couple of years ago. They were an absolute pleasure to deal with.

They always have interesting stuff, what's the set up?

Very varied stock list. Everything from a 16 year old Pug 406, up to a £50k Bentley Continental. Sounds like an interesting dealer.

[excel monkey]

MysteryLemon said:

Honda really did have a fair selection of Coupes at one point. Far too many really.

Now they're at the other extreme, with no coupes at all, and a brand nobody in the UK gives a st about.

I'm a Honda fan, and the starship mileage CR-V I recently bought has been great, but they really do need to do something to put a bit of glamour back into the brand. A new NSX and a smallish GT86 type coupe would be a good start.

[Mudgey]

excel monkey said:

Now they're at the other extreme, with no coupes at all, and a brand nobody in the UK gives a st about.

I'm a Honda fan, and the starship mileage CR-V I recently bought has been great, but they really do need to do something to put a bit of glamour back into the brand.

I agree, the mid 90's were definitely Honda's Golden Years when it came to performance motoring.

I also just noticed the price on this one! Wishful thinking. I paid a good few hundred less for a Type S with 56k on the clock and I would say it was 8.5 out of 10 for condition.

Edited by Mudgey on Thursday 14th March 14:43

Edited by Mudgey on Thursday 14th March 14:44

[tali1]

Integra =hard
Prelude =medium
Accord coupe =soft.
Remember Integra TR was UK for short time only - so not part of Honda Uk mainstay.
Accord coupe very niche as can't recall rivals .

Edited by tali1 on Thursday 14th March 15:39

[MysteryLemon]

excel monkey said:

Now they're at the other extreme, with no coupes at all, and a brand nobody in the UK gives a st about.

I'm a Honda fan, and the starship mileage CR-V I recently bought has been great, but they really do need to do something to put a bit of glamour back into the brand. A new NSX and a smallish GT86 type coupe would be a good start.

I think thats what they were going for with the CR-Z but they packed it full of hybrid crap instead of a nice vtec engine. Not all that inspiring although it is a looker. Previous gen Civic Type-R (and previous to that) were lovely cars. The new shape civic is a mess.

[carinaman]

Don't forget:

http://www.insightcentral.net/

[the_hood]

I'm a big fan of Hondas and especially the old school VTEC engines.
When it was first launched I wasn't a fan of the 5th gen, but it looks have become more appealing over time.
If it was shed money, it would be worth a punt but at the current asking price I'ld be looking eleswhere.

[havoc]

tali1 said:

Integra =hard
Prelude =medium
Accord coupe =soft.
Remember Integra TR was UK for short time only - so not part of Honda Uk mainstay.
Accord coupe very niche as can't recall rivals .

Disagree with the bit in bold.

DC2 Type R was a UK for from 1997 "R-plate" to end-00/early-01 "X plate", which is all of it's Japanese run bar the first year. Non-R DC2 was never sold here officially as it was too close to the Civic Coupe (which it has a similar chassis to).

DC5-R was never sold here as the DC2 wasn't a big seller and they didn't want to take sales away from the UK-built EP3-R (which turned into a bigger success than expected).

Similar story with the ATR - the Swindon-built CH1-R was sold over here but never in big #s, so they left the Jap-built CL7-R for the Japanese market only.

...and then the same story with the FN2-R / FD2-R Civics - the UK-built car was sold here, the Japanese-built car wasn't.

Can't believe that DC2 aside, domestic-production has been the driver behind Type-Rs offered in the UK, but that's what's happened...

[Fluid]

I owned a Type S for over 6 years.

Wonderful car, only sold it as I came into a bit of money and bought an M3.

[grosserbaby]

Can you please refrain from posting cheapish interesting cars on here that I would love to have in my hypothetical yard full of cars.
I am a fan of past sporty Hondas, although all the current ones are about as interesting as a tartan shopping trolley and are aimed at the same market.

[speedtwelve]

I had a 5th Gen VTi for a year or two. I actually didn't mind the looks, and they did grow on me. Mine was a manual with the 183bhp engine. It was a comfortable and quick GT car; it did seem to be all-grip with little adjustability, but that enabled pretty high cornering speeds, and I thought it felt quick enough, even though my previous Honda had been an S2000. I only saw 26 mpg or so from mine.

The 4WS was great around town; I still miss the London taxi turning circle. Initially it feels like you're oversteering at 15mph when you apply lots of lock to turn across junctions etc, as the rears do their stuff and the back of the car transcribes a slightly different route around the corner than a conventional vehicle would.

It is a big car: not much room inside, but longer and wider than an Ur Quattro IIRC. Excellent aircon, cruise control, good driving position. Hard to find with leather seats though, and all sport an interior and dash that looks like they escaped from some Korean pensioner special from the '80s.

My Corrado VR6 was better in every way, but the Prelude was a decent contender in most areas. The Honda was completely reliable, incidentally; not a single thing went wrong with it, even at 130k miles.

[Wolfie660]

I went to test drive this car, to say I was disappointed is a understatement!
The rear bumper, wing mirrors and front part of the bonnet had turned pink, the windows would not go down and activated the central locking, along with the adjuster switch for the mirrors.
the engine felt lazy, not like a H22 should do, the gearbox felt clunky as well.
and it was pulling to the right..... apart from that it was a nice car!
Sarah cox is a husband and wife team working from their house, so its not a "proper" garage.
but they are friendly enough and I have brought from them before, but the car is/was not with the original asking price.

[Prelude Type S]

I just bought a Type S, the JDM one of these. It is the real flagship for 5th gen preludes. It says in the article that this one does 0-60mph in 6.7. Does anyone know the official 0-100km/h of the Type S? And the Vmax? I thought mine has the H22A8 since it is 217hp.

[justa1972]

lovely lovely looking cars - a chap near me drives a red one and it looks gorgeous

Stands out so much amongst all the rep wagons - shame Honda don't have an equivalent now...