RE: Renaultsport Clio 200 price confirmed

[Toathus]

It's obviously not as good looking as the outgoing model but I'll wait for the first roadtests before passing judgement on the cars ability. Clearly it is stuffed with a lot more tech than before, I just hope the electric power steering does not dilute the RS experience too much

[morebhpplease]

I'm waiting for delivery of an ST2 with all the extras except sat nav which I paid a few hundred pounds less than £16995 so you can get a fair amount off if you haggle.

I quite like the new Clio also, but not sure about the yellow at that angle on the big photo, the red on the non RS in the advert looks quite nice though.

Also don't you get 4 years warranty now with Renault?

Edited by morebhpplease on Thursday 14th March 13:20

[KMB]

Having owned my 200 Cup from new for 3.5 years (the longest I've kept a car), I'll be interested on Monkey's review.

Although whatever the outcome, I won't be buying one, I may be old fashioned but still prefer more than two pedals

[blackchrome917]

I like the yellow!

[nick_j007]

morebhpplease said:

I'm waiting for delivery of an ST2 with all the extras except sat nav which I paid a few hundred pounds less than £16995 so you can get a fair amount off if you haggle.

I quite like the new Clio also, but not sure about the yellow at that angle on the big photo, the red on the non RS in the advert looks quite nice though.

Also don't you get 4 years warranty now with Renault?

Edited by morebhpplease on Thursday 14th March 13:20

When are you expecting delivery btw?

[TurboBlue]

bagseye said:

Ok Renault. At this price, you have my attention again.

Cup?

From RS website:
http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/roadcars/ClioRenault...
•Cup chassis option with 3mm lowered ride height, 15% stiffer chassis (springs and dampers) and improved steering, red brake calipers and 18" wheels gloss black with Dunlop Sport Maxx TT tyres

[the-photographer]

Less power Polo/Fabia at £19400 / £17100

[big_boz]

GroundEffect said:

richb77 said:

fk me i feel old (i'm 34).

£19k for a clio.

£15,000 in 2002 when the 172 was at its height is £19,500 today.

Yes you are getting old.

Another PH case of "Get a better job"

Some people will never buy a new car, this i accept, however its boring when they feel the need to spout on about how "expensive new cars are"

[Penneth]

Equipment and tech is way above that of the Fiesta so comparing the cars £ for £ isn't really a good idea. The Fiesta is still great value for money mind you, don't get me wrong! Also, the Clio comes with 4+, so 4 years of warranty, breakdown cover and servicing included within the price.

Some option prices:

Cup chassis and 18" wheels £450
18" wheels £185
Monitor £95
Climate control £410 (standard on Lux)
Extra tint £250 (Standard on Lux)
Leather £1000
Heated seats £250
Rear sensors £315
Rear camera £350
Metallic £495
Flame red £595
Liquid yellow £1300

[Podie]

big_boz said:

GroundEffect said:

richb77 said:

fk me i feel old (i'm 34).

£19k for a clio.

£15,000 in 2002 when the 172 was at its height is £19,500 today.

Yes you are getting old.

Another PH case of "Get a better job"

Some people will never buy a new car, this i accept, however its boring when they feel the need to spout on about how "expensive new cars are"

Why is it?

Not having bought a new car for a decade, I was surprised how much things have crept up.

I can perfectly well afford one (cash, not credit) but struggle to justify spending this sort of money on a car that does less than 10 miles a day to the train station and back.

[morebhpplease]

Last week of this month but a few others on the ST onwers club are being told early April but I did order quite early.

A load arrived today on the Dagenham jetty and are now being loaded on transporters to go to dealers according to the owners club (with pictures to prove)

[Antj]

i don't have a problem with the gearbox, i don;t have a problem with the styling, however i do have a problem with the 4 doors.

I am looking for a warm hatch to use as a daily driver and have to admit i am very close to ordering a new Fiesta ST which seems to tick all the boxes, for ultimate track thrills i have my Type R so this would be a small runabout which is still fun.

So i look forward to seeing the review , i hope Chris Harris does one of his reviews as i think this is an important sector now. Scary that this is priced more than the Megane sport was back in 2003 though. In an age when salaries have not increased int he last 8 years its mad to see how much cars have moved on in pricing.

[kambites]

Podie said:

Not having bought a new car for a decade, I was surprised how much things have crept up.

That's sort of the point though - they haven't. Real-terms new car prices have been dropping pretty continuously since the motor car was invented.

[Podie]

kambites said:

Podie said:

Not having bought a new car for a decade, I was surprised how much things have crept up.

That's sort of the point though - they haven't. Real-terms new car prices have been dropping pretty continuously since the motor car was invented.

Perception versus reality.

My perception is things have crept up.

Reality is clearly different.

[kambites]

Podie said:

Perception versus reality.

Indeed.

In many respects, new car buyers have never had it so good.

[[AJ]]

This has lost any remaining appeal for me. I loved the old RS Cup, but this is just a mini megane now. Gone is the NA engine, gone is the manual box and gone is the 3 door platform. It will no doubt be a good little runner, but it has much of what the Clio RS was all about.

[vescaegg]

Second hand hot Clios are such bargains, but with a dual clutch box, how many people with say £5-7k to spend on such a car will want to risk purchasing one? They sound expensive and therefore expensive to fix...

Having never spent any considerable amount of time with one, I take it modern dual clutches are as reliable as manual boxes?

[Ashley1987]

I'm betting this will be a great car. I wouldn't buy one new though I'd wait for someone to put 3000 on it and then buy it for 10K or probably less.....

[corcoran]

Podie said:

big_boz said:

GroundEffect said:

richb77 said:

fk me i feel old (i'm 34).

£19k for a clio.

£15,000 in 2002 when the 172 was at its height is £19,500 today.

Yes you are getting old.

Another PH case of "Get a better job"

Some people will never buy a new car, this i accept, however its boring when they feel the need to spout on about how "expensive new cars are"

Why is it?

Not having bought a new car for a decade, I was surprised how much things have crept up.

I can perfectly well afford one (cash, not credit) but struggle to justify spending this sort of money on a car that does less than 10 miles a day to the train station and back.

"Get a better job" and become a more patronising w.nker, by all accounts.

[big_boz]

Podie said:

I can perfectly well afford one (cash, not credit) but struggle to justify spending this sort of money on a car that does less than 10 miles a day to the train station and back.

Well you have just proven my point then. If you earned more money you would be able to justify spending it on a car wouldn't you....regardless of your current income or transportation needs.

BUT, to your point, one imagines that the vast majority of people will be financing or leasing, so the list price of little or no consequence. Would i spend £20k on a new car...no...but would i lease one for a few years for what £400 a month perhaps.....quite possibly

Now think on...the age of people who are going to be in the market for a grown up hot hatch are quite possibly going to be in the "kid zone", if you are nearing the age (i am in it) are they likely to be signing up to a 3 year deal on a 3 door car when there is a danger of needing a couple of extra doors in the financed period...no they will go for the 5 door. Personally i think Renault's approach makes perfect sense.

Do people buy new hot hatches as a weekend fun tool? NO they buy them as a daily driver that is capable of the daily slog and a bit of fun on the side, that is the point of a hot hatch.