RE: Renaultsport Clio 200 Turbo: Driven
Discussion
Harris has spoken,much more comfortable,still fun (he doesn't compare it with the prev 200 cup one here though) and faster.
Seems very good to me.
And Technomatt have you created an account just to say sh!t about this car?
You are on every thread misinterpreting everything someone who has driven it says,fvck me you are annoying.
I agree with Harris it looks like a normal Clio 0,9 with a R.S badge and a diffuser,compare the Clio 3 1,6 with the 200 Cup to understand what Harris was about looks.
Seems very good to me.
And Technomatt have you created an account just to say sh!t about this car?
You are on every thread misinterpreting everything someone who has driven it says,fvck me you are annoying.
I agree with Harris it looks like a normal Clio 0,9 with a R.S badge and a diffuser,compare the Clio 3 1,6 with the 200 Cup to understand what Harris was about looks.
Not sure of Pistonheads view of AutoExpress... but their journo reckons the DSG is slow.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/clio/63162/ne...
"The time it takes between pulling the paddle and the next cog engaging is slightly too long. Add in the fact that the car emits an annoying beep at the limiter, and youll find yourself, most of the time, leaving the gearbox to do its own thing."
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/clio/63162/ne...
"The time it takes between pulling the paddle and the next cog engaging is slightly too long. Add in the fact that the car emits an annoying beep at the limiter, and youll find yourself, most of the time, leaving the gearbox to do its own thing."
I think my current 200 cup will be the last hot front drive car I have after owning a few few good ones (trophy, DC2, DC5). I dont need touch screen sat nave, electric mirrors, rain sensative this and that in a hot hatch. I know many people do want it though so Renault have opted to please the masses rather than the enthusiasts. Fingers crossed Honda will pull there finger out!
Dickie Meaden's had a go too...
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2886...
"Theres no question its a car thats been honed by hardcore drivers, but in gaining bandwidth to appeal to drivers who until now have felt the RS Clio was too uncompromising, the style of performance is totally different. That doesnt prevent it from being a very good car in many respects, but its not yet a great one, at least by evos exacting and unashamedly singular criteria."
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2886...
"Theres no question its a car thats been honed by hardcore drivers, but in gaining bandwidth to appeal to drivers who until now have felt the RS Clio was too uncompromising, the style of performance is totally different. That doesnt prevent it from being a very good car in many respects, but its not yet a great one, at least by evos exacting and unashamedly singular criteria."
As with all RS Clio's the first model out is usually improved upon and the really great cars come later.
Whilst I enjoy people debating what road testers think perhaps it would be better if you are actually in the market for one of these cars to test it for yourself......
My other half has a 200 and I know is looking at one of these as its bloody hard to get a little girl in the back of a 200 with Recaro's.
Renault will cease to exist as a car company if they don't go for a larger market share and then we will all lose out as they support there owners through Trackdays and Motorsport such as the Renault World Series which is free.
Whilst I enjoy people debating what road testers think perhaps it would be better if you are actually in the market for one of these cars to test it for yourself......
My other half has a 200 and I know is looking at one of these as its bloody hard to get a little girl in the back of a 200 with Recaro's.
Renault will cease to exist as a car company if they don't go for a larger market share and then we will all lose out as they support there owners through Trackdays and Motorsport such as the Renault World Series which is free.
anonymous said:
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Largely because journos and mfrs have very loudly touted how much "better" turbo'd engines are - all that lovely "mid-range torque" and "effortless overtaking urge", combined with "much better fuel economy" - at least on the combined cycle, but let's not worry about the real-world, eh?!?Which really confuses me, as gearboxes have become better and better over the years, and in most cars are now rather pleasant things to use...and also have more gears in them now, which make it easier to keep any engine "on the boil"*.
- Almost no journalist has bemoaned the loss of throttle-response by moving to n/a. This grieves me.
- Nor the loss of beautifully-linear power delivery which makes balancing a car through a corner that much easier. This is equally negligent.
- Nor the wider power-band afforded by bigger-capacity n/a engines, which aside from giving a car a beautiful big-hearted character enables overtakes to be completed in a single gear (try that in your oh-so-torquey turbodiesel!). This, granted, is a matter of preference.
Emissions regs have driven this all, and the marketing men and journos have convinced the public that they want what's for sale. That, and the fact that half the performance-car-buying public buy a car for toys/image/stats, rather than how a car drives anyway...
* All phrases (C) the lazy-journalists book of cliches
gjackson said:
Matt Wills said:
My other half has a 200 and I know is looking at one of these as its bloody hard to get a little girl in the back of a 200 with Recaro's......
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