SLEEPERS! Anyone have a street sleeper here?

[Super Sonic]

Jimmm said:

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Starlet picture

Rwd hatch.

[Missy Charm]

Jimmm said:

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Is that the one with the Cosworth engine? If memory serves, it's appeared here before and has been for sale for about a million years...

[Jimmm]

Missy Charm said:

Jimmm said:

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Is that the one with the Cosworth engine? If memory serves, it's appeared here before and has been for sale for about a million years...

Seems to be Toyota powered.

[Jimmm]

No strut brace makes me wonder about the dynamics. But pretty sure this would upset most hot hatches if it only had 200hp. 460hp must be interesting.

[ajprice]

It is the Cosworth engined car, I've seen it on YouTube before, I think on a Late Brake Show video of an auction walk around. The engine has a custom rocker cover so that's why it says Toyota on it. There can't be that many silver modified Toyota Starlets but I remember the carbon buckets with the original seat trim on the padding. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/11212320...

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https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-citroen-2...

[braddo]

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https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-citroen-2...

Bloody marvellous!!

[21st Century Man]

Those BMW engined 2CV's are really quick with three to four times the standard power and just 500kgs. And roll = grip, not many get that. 2CV's have a very low CoG and huge grip.

[Megaflow]

braddo said:

ConnectionError said:

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-citroen-2...

Bloody marvellous!!

Superb!

[ambuletz]

Looks amazing, can't help but wonder how it'd sound. Hopefully the engine noise is just as sleeper

[Escort3500]

That’s superb. I wouldn’t change a thing

[J4CKO]

Jimmm said:

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With these, I would be surprised (as a car enthusiast) if it still had its original 1 litre or 1.2 litre engine as every single one thats still about seems to have some kind of engine conversion.

Imagine with 460 bhp and weighing less than a ton its mental, just not sure whether it would be in a good way or just sketchy and terrifying, kind of thinking that 200 to 300 bhp would be plenty in something that small and light, thats one you could do with practising in somewhere free of obstructions !

Very cool but dont think there are any grannies still using one as a shopping car any more, it would probably still fool non car geeks in fancy stuff though.

[Jimmm]

21st Century Man said:

Those BMW engined 2CV's are really quick with three to four times the standard power and just 500kgs. And roll = grip, not many get that. 2CV's have a very low CoG and huge grip.

I can attest to this quote. This van would not just be surprisingly quick in a straight line but in the corners too. I wouldn't be surprised if a standard well looked after 2CV is quicker than a Golf GTi on a flying lap around a Go Kart Track, this needs a YouTube video if one doesn't already exist.

[ajprice]

Jimmm said:

21st Century Man said:

Those BMW engined 2CV's are really quick with three to four times the standard power and just 500kgs. And roll = grip, not many get that. 2CV's have a very low CoG and huge grip.

I can attest to this quote. This van would not just be surprisingly quick in a straight line but in the corners too. I wouldn't be surprised if a standard well looked after 2CV is quicker than a Golf GTi on a flying lap around a Go Kart Track, this needs a YouTube video if one doesn't already exist.

It's on Collecting Cars but it's probably too late now for a Chris Harris video on it

[J4CKO]

Jimmm said:

21st Century Man said:

Those BMW engined 2CV's are really quick with three to four times the standard power and just 500kgs. And roll = grip, not many get that. 2CV's have a very low CoG and huge grip.

I can attest to this quote. This van would not just be surprisingly quick in a straight line but in the corners too. I wouldn't be surprised if a standard well looked after 2CV is quicker than a Golf GTi on a flying lap around a Go Kart Track, this needs a YouTube video if one doesn't already exist.

What ?

A standard one is barely faster than walking.

The BMW engined one wouldn't be quicker either, it would be quicker than a standard 2CV but its still not going to be all that quick.

[ajprice]

[21st Century Man]

J4CKO said:

Jimmm said:

21st Century Man said:

Those BMW engined 2CV's are really quick with three to four times the standard power and just 500kgs. And roll = grip, not many get that. 2CV's have a very low CoG and huge grip.

I can attest to this quote. This van would not just be surprisingly quick in a straight line but in the corners too. I wouldn't be surprised if a standard well looked after 2CV is quicker than a Golf GTi on a flying lap around a Go Kart Track, this needs a YouTube video if one doesn't already exist.

What ?

A standard one is barely faster than walking.

The BMW engined one wouldn't be quicker either, it would be quicker than a standard 2CV but its still not going to be all that quick.

I think the problem may well be power understeer, not something that the standard car suffers from. But yes, even standard 2CV's are hilariously quick in the really tight twisty stuff. Go see some autotest clips. And for the performance of a BMW bike engined conversion in general, the Pete Sparrow cars on a circuit, mullering some pretty handy stuff (GTi's, MX5's and the like) is worth a watch too.

[braddo]

This is a set of wheels and maybe an inch of extra ride height away from being one hell of a sleeper.

500hp+ of turbocharged 80s petrol Merc straight six under the bonnet.

For sale for £30k

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678006

[RSTurboPaul]

That would be awesome.

[J4CKO]

braddo said:

This is a set of wheels and maybe an inch of extra ride height away from being one hell of a sleeper.

500hp+ of turbocharged 80s petrol Merc straight six under the bonnet.

For sale for £30k

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678006

Yeah, that would float past my radar as "Cool, nice old Merc, probably very slow".