RE: Tesla to post first-ever profits
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Prof Prolapse said:
Give that man a cigar.
The official figures state that even when driven high mileages, electric vehicles are still responsible for carbon emissions totaling 75% of that emitted by a standard petrol car (due to battery production and taking into account the large % of power stations which still run on fossil fuels).Technology will of course improve and sales of the current electric vehicles will hasten this, but thems the facts.
KarlMac said:
Will be interesting to see how Tesla get on with some competition in the market. Fisker has some clout behind them now.
If they want to truly live up to the Tesla name they should have a great idea and get it nicked
The article may have mentioned Fisker having problems sourcing battery components but I suspect this may be something to do with demand.If they want to truly live up to the Tesla name they should have a great idea and get it nicked
At SEMA last year, we saw umpteen Fiskers and not a single Tesla. Its a pretty good gauge of what the public are buying or are interested in.
McWigglebum4th said:
Ah. A child of labour education. There is more to being green then CO2. They don't puke out nasty stuff out of the back of the car and are nice and quiet which makes them far nicer to have in a city
Is one not able to question something in a perfectly reasonable way on Pistonheads without someone else trying to be clever or patronising? I understand the other points but what on earth are you on about "a child of labour education?" 
RichB said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Ah. A child of labour education. There is more to being green then CO2. They don't puke out nasty stuff out of the back of the car and are nice and quiet which makes them far nicer to have in a city
Is one not able to question something in a perfectly reasonable way on Pistonheads without someone else trying to be clever or patronising? I understand the other points but what on earth are you on about "a child of labour education?" this whole CO2 b
ks is stopping people from thinking about anything other then CO2. Normally those educated this century have a bad case of CO2 blinkers McWigglebum4th said:
As the first only thing that many people think of is CO2
this whole CO2 bks is stopping people from thinking about anything other then CO2. Normally those educated this century have a bad case of CO2 blinkers
It has little to do with Labour really though, in my experience you'll find exactly the same thing in every other country. this whole CO2 b
ks is stopping people from thinking about anything other then CO2. Normally those educated this century have a bad case of CO2 blinkers McWigglebum4th said:
As the first only thing that many people think of is CO2
this whole CO2 bks is stopping people from thinking about anything other then CO2. Normally those educated this century have a bad case of CO2 blinkers
Well you couldn't be wider of the mark this whole CO2 b
ks is stopping people from thinking about anything other then CO2. Normally those educated this century have a bad case of CO2 blinkers 
I grew up in the era of the Beatles & Stones, Heath & Wilson - so perhaps you right in some respect! Remembering the London smog I think in terms of polution not CO2 bks and when I think of green it's either British Racing or peas... Electic cars fit in somewhere. I rearely do 20mile round trips at 30mph, but if i did, then i'd consider an electric car. I heard today that 100years ago electric cars were the main type in New York. For cities they would be a massive improvement for everyone.
I drive 150 miles a day at 60-80mph and get 53mpg from my diesel. I will keep car for 180000 miles and sell it for 2-3k. If an electric charge could last 300 miles and do 80 plus mpg equivalent at 75mph then i might buy one.
I drive 150 miles a day at 60-80mph and get 53mpg from my diesel. I will keep car for 180000 miles and sell it for 2-3k. If an electric charge could last 300 miles and do 80 plus mpg equivalent at 75mph then i might buy one.
Si_man306 said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Give that man a cigar.
The official figures state that even when driven high mileages, electric vehicles are still responsible for carbon emissions totaling 75% of that emitted by a standard petrol car (due to battery production and taking into account the large % of power stations which still run on fossil fuels).Technology will of course improve and sales of the current electric vehicles will hasten this, but thems the facts.
I think its a bit too complicated maths to just rattle off percentages to be honest. I'm not convinced by anything but the core premise... That it's more efficient overall to have several large power generators than thousands of small ones under bonnets. Especially with a drive to less carbon derived energies.
ayseven said:
It is the future.
Apart from the fact that in the next 3 or 4 years some clever people are saying we won't have enough electricity to power our daily lives, let alone our vehicles too. And people will only get more and more electronic gadgets in the meantime...I would struggle to think it fair that electricity becomes even more expensive for someone who wants to light their house and cook their dinner because someone is now using it to drive a luxo-barge on an autotest or whatever it was.
zebedee said:
ayseven said:
It is the future.
Apart from the fact that in the next 3 or 4 years some clever people are saying we won't have enough electricity to power our daily lives, let alone our vehicles too. And people will only get more and more electronic gadgets in the meantime...I would struggle to think it fair that electricity becomes even more expensive for someone who wants to light their house and cook their dinner because someone is now using it to drive a luxo-barge on an autotest or whatever it was.
Southie01 said:
green-blood said:
As part of the announcement, Tesla also confirmed that it will drop the slow-selling 40kWh version of the Model S, focussing instead on the faster and longer-range 60kWh and 85kWh versions.
Its just a money making exercise, the environment stuff is pure bluster. How many millions of US tax dollars have been invested in this company??
They made a profit on a qtr, the company is MASSIVELY in debt
$465 million, Which they have arranged to repay 5 years early...Its just a money making exercise, the environment stuff is pure bluster. How many millions of US tax dollars have been invested in this company??
They made a profit on a qtr, the company is MASSIVELY in debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-08/tesla-pla...
I wonder if he'll make a bid for Fisker? There was a massive falling out as Musk accused Fisker of essentially stealing their business plan when asked to design the Tesla S. Having seen both of these in the flesh, they are very pretty cars, just need the battery tech to advance a bit more.
Always nice to see some positive news in the motor industry.....
kambites said:
It's peak capacity that we're short of, which wouldn't typically coincide with when electric cars were being charged.
I don't know, get home from work, car on the drive, first thing people will do is plug them in isn't it, before going in to turn on the tv, kettle, oven and hobs? But then I know nothing about car charging and how or when it happens.zebedee said:
kambites said:
It's peak capacity that we're short of, which wouldn't typically coincide with when electric cars were being charged.
I don't know, get home from work, car on the drive, first thing people will do is plug them in isn't it, before going in to turn on the tv, kettle, oven and hobs? But then I know nothing about car charging and how or when it happens.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff