BMW 640d sport

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Blown2CV

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28,941 posts

204 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Got my eye on one of these, maybe. Seem like some incredible lease deals out there. Are the cars as good as they sound?

Matt UK

17,754 posts

201 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I've not driven one, but if you are looking for a GT coupe, I've not read a bad word about them.
I think the latest 6 finally looks good as well.

Christian85

858 posts

139 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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I think the latest 6 series looks incredibly better then its predecessor, they are bringing a 4 door out soon which doesn't look at all bad. In regards to the 640d i've heard nothing but great things about them, are there any other makes/models you should be considering when looking at these?

T1CHS

148 posts

178 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?

talksthetalk

10,815 posts

136 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Cos they pay 40-45k for it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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T1CHS said:
How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?
Or maybe you need to reverse the question

How the hell can a company expect to sell a car for £61k that can be leased for £389 a month?

T1CHS

148 posts

178 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Good point, well made! Certinly are tempting at this price point! Make a New E-class look expensive.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 8th April 2013
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Where are these deals?

That's amazing!

I've sen a few in the flesh and boy do they look good I'd certainly consider one.

Blown2CV

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28,941 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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it looks like there are some heavy discounts of up to £10k on some of them... also the lease cost is to pay for the depreciation no the purchase price. If it depreciates from £50k to £30k over 3 years then it's £20k less deposit (i think 6 times payment on these deals so £2.5-3k) divided by 36 payments so it's in that area isn't it? Cracking deal really.

Blown2CV

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28,941 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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T1CHS said:
How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?
where are you seeing that particular deal?

Face for Radio

1,777 posts

168 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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T1CHS said:
How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?
A £61k car probably only costs BMW something like £20k to make.

Blown2CV

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Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Face for Radio said:
T1CHS said:
How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?
A £61k car probably only costs BMW something like £20k to make.
that's not the point though. They don't sell it to a lease company for what it costs them to make, they sell it at list price less dealer margin less volume/fleet discount and the lease company use that as the bas price and add on an admin fee to give £X. Based on that, they take the estimated value at the end of a lease £Y.

X-Y = depreciation D

balance B = D + interest

36 month agreement has 3x monthly payment as deposit (usually) so

payment = B/39

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Face for Radio said:
T1CHS said:
How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?
A £61k car probably only costs BMW something like £20k to make.
For sure, obviously car companies need profits to pay the thousands of employees for the years of work that go into designing, engineering, testing and supporting a car. I can't confirm what this ratio is for BMW and how close you are, but I do know that the companies with the largest differences are obviously the ones Avis and Hertz end up buying in bulk. I once heard what Avis buy an "£18k" Vectra for and was dumbstruck!! It makes sense though if you drive the cars and look at them and judge their quality. A £12k Fiesta is clearly not equivalent to a £12k Yaris - Ford were even still using their old Kent engine up until a few years ago, when their rivals had fully up to date engines producing way more mpg and bhp.

Seb d

613 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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I've driven it and really enjoyed it, excellent all-rounder. If you like the looks, you won't go wrong, very impressive.

Blown2CV

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28,941 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Blown2CV said:
Face for Radio said:
T1CHS said:
How the hell can a company do a lease at £389 a month on a £61k car?
A £61k car probably only costs BMW something like £20k to make.
that's not the point though. They don't sell it to a lease company for what it costs them to make, they sell it at list price less dealer margin less volume/fleet discount and the lease company use that as the bas price and add on an admin fee to give £X. Based on that, they take the estimated value at the end of a lease £Y.

X-Y = depreciation D

balance B = D + interest

36 month agreement has 3x monthly payment as deposit (usually) so

payment = B/39
also to be factored in is lease company the have a vehicle that they 'owes' them Y as a trade price, they can then make a little tickle back buy sending it to block auction or some other channel at a value over Y.

Flying machine

1,132 posts

177 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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I'd love one! Next daily maybe....

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Can't wait for these a decade later when they cost 2 grand. smile

Blown2CV

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Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Motorrad said:
Can't wait for these a decade later when they cost 2 grand. smile
prev shape 635d is down to a decent value now! Not quite £2k though i don't think...

robsa

2,264 posts

185 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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This is about the cheapest.... tempted?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-6-SERIES-645CI-2DR-A...

robsa

2,264 posts

185 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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This is about the cheapest.... tempted?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-6-SERIES-645CI-2DR-A...