RE: Jaguar F-Type V6 S: Driven

RE: Jaguar F-Type V6 S: Driven

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kilarney

483 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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It will sell because its good and its not your predictable porsche. Finally a jag i would buy. High price is a good strategy as low pricing devalues the brand read 924, amv8, a class, x type. Jaguar dont have a problem shifting very high priced SUV,s

chryslerben

1,174 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Alex said:
Top speeds are "electronically limited" to 161mph (V6), 171mph (V6S) and 186mph (V8S).

Is that right? What will the V8S do without the limiter? 187mph?
Depands on how much road you've got.


And to those wittering on about its not a jag, well sorry your wrong it is a jaguar. If they continued to build that played out old retro st they once built then that would be another British car builder down the drain it was crap and no one bought it. I for one welcome the new jaguar and long may it continue, finally back to their true heritage.


chappardababbar

421 posts

143 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Dan, you look just like Russell Kane

http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/C6/CD58CA4DFF462CE86BD3...

AER

1,142 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Nice that the British motoring journalists get to try out the new Jaguar as a German-registered LHD sample! Very patriotic!

kinghottinger

185 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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unrepentant said:
yes

It's a brilliant new car and will sell well. We've been waiting for it since 1975. Well done JLR. What a fantastic few years since TATA took over. Brilliant new XJ, fantastic Evoque, utterly incredible new FFRR, great new Sport and now a truly exceptional new Jaguar sports car. And more to come..

It's British and it's great. Be proud, I am.
Totally agree. JLR are on a roll and producing some of the best vehicles out there with not a jot of nostalgia in sight. More power to them.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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kinghottinger said:
Totally agree. JLR are on a roll and producing some of the best vehicles out there with not a jot of nostalgia in sight. More power to them.
If I was in the market for an SUV, large saloon or sports car JLR's products would top of my list

cb31

1,143 posts

136 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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No way would I choose this over the default Porsche. I know JLR products are now priced extremely high and yet still people buy them, not me though. Still good to see it being made.

DMC2

1,834 posts

211 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Too lardy. The V6 looks expensive but for some reason the V8S looks better value...

The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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MissChief said:
Problem is, despite all Jaguar's attempts, as an Open Top Sports car any buyer is going to look at this. And then look at a Porsche Boxster which is the thick end of £10k cheaper. Now if they made a Coupe version and offered a Soft top along side it, they might get away with it, but as it is it's too expensive. It doesn;t directly compare to a 911. Also a lot fo people 'will always buy a 911' because it's a Porsche 911. It's still some peoples idea of the Ultimate 'affordable' Sports car.
Are people really as logical as that? That would mean that there are no two seat sports cars sold above the £45k price point at all.

I'm not sure people really understand how few of these cars Jag are actually trying to sell when compared to its competitors, talk of poor residuals and discounts is just total ignorance.

Edited by The Vambo on Wednesday 17th April 08:12

gaucimiura

35 posts

154 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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minipower said:
It looks fantastic. I think seeing it in the metal will make it look sleeker than it does in the photo.
The interior looks lovely, but I cannot understand why they chose brown and black to go together.
I thought the same - black and brown interior - odd choice? I also think the hard-top will be the prettier car (although the rag-top hasn't exactly been hit with the ugly stick). Black with light-coloured (grey?) leather interior and this could be up there with the Aston DBS as one of the best looking front-engined GT cars of recent times. I hope the coupe goes with the side opening rear hatch, as seen in some mock-up pics, as a subtle nod to the E-Type.

gaucimiura

35 posts

154 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I think chrome or aluminium spokes on the steering wheel and elsewhere in the cabin wouldn't have gone amiss. Liking the Miura-esque passenger grab handle. Also, this talk of Cayman or Boxster v F-Type. Am I alone in thinking these cars appeal to different types of people?

GreatCornholio

1,755 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I really like this but looking forward to seeing the coupe! I bet the rear haunches will be suitably pumped.

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Great review - I must get a test drive in one of these soon...

The Porsche question will always hang over this car, both the Boxster and the 911 are truly great cars; but the fact that there is so much debate on which one the F-Type is a rival for demonstrates to me that jag have pitched this dead in the middle.

They appear to have out-niched the Germans!

While I'm on; I don't understand all the moaning about the weight. Surely the greatest asset a sports car can have is balance, poise, and feel; the weight of the thing can either detract from or enhance this. If it's too heavy, increase the power to compensate, the only loser then would be economy. Which is the last thing a potential buyer would be interested in. Confirmed, I feel, by the absence of any mention of it in the review...

Just my tuppence-worth.

oldtimer2

728 posts

133 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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The success or failure of the F-Type will depend in the first instance on sales in the USA and then on sales to the newly prosperous in the Middle East and Asia (especially China). There is a well defined market in the USA. There the deciding issues are more likely to be looks, easy controls including light steering, and the sound rather than the price. Chances are that this would an addition to the stable of cars that the prospective buyers already own. The buying decision is less likely to be a choice between an F-Type or Porsche but as an alternative to something like this:
http://www.iconaircraft.com/video-join-our-mission...
...one of the more striking examples of the new breed of sport light aircraft now available in the USA. This Icon can be yours for c$130,000. That and expensive sailboats or powerboats are the real competition for very high priced cars for a significant segment of the US market.


kambites

67,578 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I can't help but feel that this might suffer the same fate as the Evora - conceived largely as a 911 competitor, but eternally compared to the Boxster and thus judged to be over-priced.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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£80k for a small V8 convertible..... from arguably a 'mid range' manufacturer.....

If I'm spending this kind of money, its got to be Porsche, or nearly new Aston.

£20k too expensive for me. V6 £10k too expensive. Only looks good value against the v8s at £80k.


Nice looking motor, but not for the money. No nearly special enough.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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TTmonkey said:
£80k for a small V8 convertible..... from arguably a 'mid range' manufacturer.....

If I'm spending this kind of money, its got to be Porsche, or nearly new Aston.
Which small V8 convertible would you buy from Porsche?

Kamox

125 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I climbed in the F-Type in Geneva. The car itself is beautiful, but as said in the article, there isn't much space for luggage (even with the custom luggage kit featured in the car at the booth).
Another problem is the cockpit... the car was obviously top-specced but the overall impression wasn't that luxurious.
Now that I read that there's been poor aerodynamic study, which makes inconvenient driving with the roof down, this is definitely not for me.

chryslerben

1,174 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Is it just me or does it come across that possibly the majority of people whining about it being over priced aren't in the financial market to be able to buy one anyway?

AP

12 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Although definitely the most exciting new Jaguar in well over a decade, I think they made a mistake by launching the convertible first.

I'm in no doubt it's a great car and it really does look good in the flesh, but basically it's a roadster with some powerful engines to choose from.
There's nothing wrong with that of course, but I reckon it's a major mistake to take on the 911 with what basically is a roadster.
If the coupe were launched first, or alongside the convertible, it would have stood a much better chance of being taken seriously as a 911 competitor for several reasons:

-It's a better looking shape
-The driving dynamics will be better because of the roof
-luggage space wouldn't be a clear win for the german rival

Maybe the coupe wasn't production ready at the time of the launch, but much like with the previous 'true sportscar' Jaguar made, it would have been the right decision to present the closed car anyway, just like they did in 1961.