RE: Jaguar F-Type V6 S: Driven

RE: Jaguar F-Type V6 S: Driven

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Agoogy

7,274 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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So happy it exists, cannot WAIT to see one inthe flesh. And as I will never be able to afford a new one I don't much care in the subjective comparison discussion... I certainly don't see it directly up aainst a 911 however.
I just like the fact it treads it's own path in the face of the Germans...

This, and it's coupe future look gorgeous.

The Vambo

6,664 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
that's true, but why are all the reviews saying how tiny it feels inside? the autocar ones says a boxster is more practical...
One of the unfortunate downside to an aluminium construction, while weight to strength is better than steel, volume to strength is much worse hence the structure being massve. Look at the FFRR, all the pillars look like they came off the Forth bridge.

Anyway, as everyone knows pretty arse= totally useless at practical things.

My girlfriend cant cook or clean. thumbup

Edited by The Vambo on Wednesday 17th April 17:11

ArtVandelay

6,689 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
that's true, but why are all the reviews saying how tiny it feels inside? the autocar ones says a boxster is more practical...

I must admit that as lovely as it looks and as commended as jag should be for making it, it is just so expensive. Upwards of £60k puts it into more exotic territory but it's made by a mainstream manufacturer. Someone earlier said think of it as a cheaper Aston. no way. it's only a Jag.
If the interior is as well made as it looks, it could certainly run an Aston close, not to mention performance of the V6 will be similar to a V8 Vantage yet £20k less expensive

il sole

287 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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ArtVandelay said:
il sole said:
that's true, but why are all the reviews saying how tiny it feels inside? the autocar ones says a boxster is more practical...

I must admit that as lovely as it looks and as commended as jag should be for making it, it is just so expensive. Upwards of £60k puts it into more exotic territory but it's made by a mainstream manufacturer. Someone earlier said think of it as a cheaper Aston. no way. it's only a Jag.
If the interior is as well made as it looks, it could certainly run an Aston close, not to mention performance of the V6 will be similar to a V8 Vantage yet £20k less expensive
yes but, if you're in the bar and chatting up a nice lady, wouldn't you rather say you had an aston than a jag?? "oh but it's the V6S model, it's as fast as an aston, but £20k cheaper", she'd be well impressed-NOT!!! biglaugh
Trouble is, I couldn't afford either, my next new car budget is rather less than £60k frown

chryslerben

1,175 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
it's only a Jag.
Never heard of an xj220, d type , e type, xjr 15, xj120, xj150 And so on they where "just jags"

ArtVandelay

6,689 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
yes but, if you're in the bar and chatting up a nice lady, wouldn't you rather say you had an aston than a jag?? "oh but it's the V6S model, it's as fast as an aston, but £20k cheaper", she'd be well impressed-NOT!!! biglaugh
Trouble is, I couldn't afford either, my next new car budget is rather less than £60k frown
I don't mention my car to a lady, but I'd image they'd still be impressed by a Jag anyway

molineux1980

1,203 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I'll never be in a position to buy one, but I'm glad it's out there. Gorgeous, British and very good. What's not to like?

katulu

25 posts

189 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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this is quite nice,

an old E-type roadster is towards the top of my list of cars I need to have in my stable before I die, but the prices of those are going crazy.

it's likely because it is heralded as one of, if not the greatest looking car ever made, the lines just scream beauty

this...well,

it's not an E-type, although you can definitely see it's influence in the design, it appears to be a very nice package, although expensive

I could definitely see myself in a pre-owned version of this in 4-5 years, I'm sure the second-hand market on them will bring the price to a competitive level

overall, I can't find much fault in the car, except for the price. it's definitely a capable 911 fighter, and something different for parking at the club next to all the SL's, Z4's, and 911's that are there

mikeg15

287 posts

201 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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ArtVandelay said:
I don't mention my car to a lady, but I'd image they'd still be impressed by a Jag anyway
Most women couldn't care less, the important thing they do tend to care about is that you can afford the car.

excel monkey

4,545 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Zad said:
But that is no bad thing. The main market for this will probably be North America in the first instance, shortly followed by the Middle East and Far East. Their eyes are already attuned to a slightly different design grammar than are Europeans, and I can see them being sold to people who aren't traditional Jaguar owners. Probably younger than the average accountant, and more likely to be in software engineering.
What is "design grammar"? Is this some kind of IT/programming pun that I have missed?

kambites

67,630 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Presumably it's extending the "design language" metaphor (possibly past breaking point) - the way the different design elements fit together?

NGK210

2,996 posts

146 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
ArtVandelay said:
il sole said:
... Someone earlier said think of it as a cheaper Aston. no way. it's only a Jag.
If the interior is as well made as it looks, it could certainly run an Aston close, not to mention performance of the V6 will be similar to a V8 Vantage yet £20k less expensive
yes but, if you're in the bar and chatting up a nice lady, wouldn't you rather say you had an aston than a jag?? "oh but it's the V6S model, it's as fast as an aston, but £20k cheaper", she'd be well impressed-NOT!!! biglaugh
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Nahh, if the nice lady enquired about your car, you'd reply, "I drive an F-type." And she'd either reply: a) "An F-type? Isn't that the cool new Jag - I hope yours is a V6 S?" or b) "What's an F-type?" And if her response was b), you'd reply: "Let me show you - my F-type's parked outside..."





Edited by NGK210 on Wednesday 17th April 17:48

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Not convinced that Red is 'its' colour. Rear looks pretty good. Side profile is a bit S2000 ish and the front looks like somewhat like a Nissan 370z with a hit of Maserati lobbed in for good measure.

Other than that, and this is not to criticise the available models, but I'd prefer a manual 6 speed box to be offered, especially in a supercharged V6.

juansolo

3,012 posts

279 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I think it looks great and I like the idea of it. I think the V8 was pointless, keep that for the XK. But still, for me the problem is the price. They say it's competing with the 911... Well I'm not so sure as I think the Jag has the same problem the new 911 has. They both look very expensive next to the new Cayman and Boxster considering just how good they are.

unrepentant

21,284 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
Someone earlier said think of it as a cheaper Aston. no way. it's only a Jag.
Jaguar has a great image and I don't know anyone who has ever considered the brand to be mass market.

What do you drive? Presumably a Maybach or a Bentley?

nickfrog

21,278 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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The Vambo said:
nickfrog said:
Particularly as it's mainly aluminium and only has a small boot when the Cayman is more practical and 250kg lighter despite only having a steel chassis and some steel panels.
An SL63 AMG weighs 1777Kg, 911 cabrio weighs 1600Kg and F Type V8 weighs 1665KG so not particularly light or heavy. I think people underestimate how large this car is, much closer to a SL than SLK.
Fair enough although a Boxster S is 1320 kg. With the same number of seats. And 40% more boot space.

Not sure what the benefits of having a larger car are if it's heavier and less practical. And more expensive.


Edited by nickfrog on Wednesday 17th April 18:20

kambites

67,630 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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juansolo said:
I think it looks great and I like the idea of it. I think the V8 was pointless, keep that for the XK. But still, for me the problem is the price. They say it's competing with the 911... Well I'm not so sure as I think the Jag has the same problem the new 911 has. They both look very expensive next to the new Cayman and Boxster considering just how good they are.
I suppose the problem is that mid-level sports cars like the Boxster have got so good that higher end sports cars (excluding super-expensive exotica) don't really serve a purpose any more.

rare6499

663 posts

140 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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I love this car, and I cant wait to see the coupe which is going to be even better.

If I had the money I would go put a deposit down on a coupe tomorrow, really love it.

JaguarsportXJR

235 posts

144 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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il sole said:
ArtVandelay said:
il sole said:
that's true, but why are all the reviews saying how tiny it feels inside? the autocar ones says a boxster is more practical...

I must admit that as lovely as it looks and as commended as jag should be for making it, it is just so expensive. Upwards of £60k puts it into more exotic territory but it's made by a mainstream manufacturer. Someone earlier said think of it as a cheaper Aston. no way. it's only a Jag.
If the interior is as well made as it looks, it could certainly run an Aston close, not to mention performance of the V6 will be similar to a V8 Vantage yet £20k less expensive
yes but, if you're in the bar and chatting up a nice lady, wouldn't you rather say you had an aston than a jag?? "oh but it's the V6S model, it's as fast as an aston, but £20k cheaper", she'd be well impressed-NOT!!! biglaugh
Trouble is, I couldn't afford either, my next new car budget is rather less than £60k frown
I appreciate that my Username suggests a certain bias, but not everyone wants to look like a footballer, which is sadly how a lot of people view Aston drivers these days.

Although having said that I'd still love an Aston V8, but I'd have to seriously look at both before I chose between that and the Jag. Conveniently enough I was following a V8 Vantage cab when I went out for a drive (in the Jag) last night. It sounded nice enough for me to wind the windows down and switch the stereo off!

ArtVandelay

6,689 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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JaguarsportXJR said:
I appreciate that my Username suggests a certain bias, but not everyone wants to look like a footballer, which is sadly how a lot of people view Aston drivers these days.
nono That's stereotyping.

Now excuse me while I go out to play football...hehe