RE: VW Golf GTI: Review

[Msportman]

Spoke to APR (VAG tuner) who support VW Motorsport and factory teams and it appears that the performance version using the diff uses the same engine as the S3...similar to the ED 30 then.

I suspect that if that is the case it will be easily tuned to well over 300bhp similar to S3 and mapped Ed30......a nice proposition if it has a mechanical diff.

I had a simialr set up in a Edition 30.....a brilliant road and track car with some KW Clubsports and big brakes!!

[porscheegt3]

Very nice and good looking car, great ride, but where is the fun? 8/10s car, not good enough. I would rather suffer some ride harshness from Megane but with possibility of extracting some fun. Or even new Astra Vxr.

[billzeebub]

Very much like, apart from the colour..people saying it looks expensive, well (for example) those awful Mini Coupes are more. I think a Golf GTI is infinitely better

[bigaoi]

gsrgeoff said:

Was considering holding off ordering a new car a few months ago and waiting for this to arrive but do prefer 4WD.

Golf R ?

[Hub]

It will be interesting to see what the new Leon Cupra will be like (I'm assuming there will be one!) Could be a return to form, certainly the new model looks a bit smarter.

[the-photographer]

Msportman said:

Spoke to APR (VAG tuner) who support VW Motorsport and factory teams and it appears that the performance version using the diff uses the same engine as the S3...similar to the ED 30 then.

I suspect that if that is the case it will be easily tuned to well over 300bhp similar to S3 and mapped Ed30......a nice proposition if it has a mechanical diff.

I had a simialr set up in a Edition 30.....a brilliant road and track car with some KW Clubsports and big brakes!!

Be careful, there are unconfirmed reports the E-diff supports a maximum of 250PS.

[gsrgeoff]

bigaoi said:

olf R ?

Was tempted but couldn't wait. Loved the A5 Quattro with this engine. Everyones looking at the power but as said the low down high
torque is what makes it feel far quicker.

[andybu]

Never mind the technical virtues of the Golf GTI MK 7. It's main virtue, for those of us who buy our cars second-hand & for cash, is that prices on the MK5's and 6's will start to slide once the 7 has got going in the marketplace.

I've had a late-ish MK 5 or a leggy 6 on my watch list for a while, but the numbers stay stubbornly higher than what's in my piggy bank. Here's hoping that by the late autumn the depreciation gravity has done its work...

[MJK 24]

andybu said:

Never mind the technical virtues of the Golf GTI MK 7. It's main virtue, for those of us who buy our cars second-hand & for cash, is that prices on the MK5's and 6's will start to slide once the 7 has got going in the marketplace.

I've had a late-ish MK 5 or a leggy 6 on my watch list for a while, but the numbers stay stubbornly higher than what's in my piggy bank. Here's hoping that by the late autumn the depreciation gravity has done its work...

As sure as night follows day, that's bound to happen as long as there's a new (and highly acclaimed) Golf GTI on sale.

[nickfrog]

Frustratingly, the exact opposite happened when the 981 Boxster was launched 12 months ago, it kind of rekindled the interest for Boxsters in general and a good chunck of the expected slide in 987 values was compensated by more demand, even on 4/5 year old cars...

I am not saying that this will happen with the GTI, but new £25K cars don't always have the expected dramatic effect on £13K car residuals...

[red355]

the-photographer said:

red355 said:

kambites said:

I'd imagine both cars will be around the 40% after three years mark - neither is "special" enough to hold its value much above the norm.

try and find a 3 year old mk6 GTI for 40% of 25k, so sub £10k. i'm prices will fade once the Mk7 is out, but they do seem to hold prices pretty well.

even our last of the Mk5s with leather & satnav (&60K) will prob fetch 40% of what we paid for it (17,500).

Ok that was a silly end of line price when the Mk6 was already out, not a new fresh to the market deal.

mmmmmmm wonder if I get a Mk6 GTI on a similar silly end of line deal

Here you go, http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...

Out of 225 cars on PH, there are 24 from 2010, the cheapest being a £13,000 from a VW dealer. This would have been about £24,000 new.

Also, you've missed the run-out offer, it was dealer contribution and low finance.

so 13k of 24k is a drop of 45% so residual 55%, but the arrival of the Mk7 will depress those figures......

[Hub]

andybu said:

I've had a late-ish MK 5 or a leggy 6 on my watch list for a while, but the numbers stay stubbornly higher than what's in my piggy bank. Here's hoping that by the late autumn the depreciation gravity has done its work...

Annoyingly there's a big old gap between a late Mk5 and and early Mk6, probably about £4k! Would consider moving up to a Mk6 but they are still a bit overpriced.

[havoc]

Hub said:

andybu said:

I've had a late-ish MK 5 or a leggy 6 on my watch list for a while, but the numbers stay stubbornly higher than what's in my piggy bank. Here's hoping that by the late autumn the depreciation gravity has done its work...

Annoyingly there's a big old gap between a late Mk5 and and early Mk6, probably about £4k! Would consider moving up to a Mk6 but they are still a bit overpriced.

Becs has had the same thoughts...wants to change, but what to?!?

[ArtVandelay]

Is it just me who hates the Golf interior? It just looks so dull, the cloth seats at least brighten it up a bit.

[va1o]

ArtVandelay said:

Is it just me who hates the Golf interior? It just looks so dull, the cloth seats at least brighten it up a bit.

Dull maybe but high quality and guaranteed to stand the test of time

[ArtVandelay]

va1o said:

Dull maybe but high quality and guaranteed to stand the test of time

Can't it be high quality and stylish? Kia manage a bit of flair and they seem to be well built these days, maybe not as well built as the Golf but the blandness would stop me from even considering it.

Doesn't have to be TVR insane, but I can barely tell the difference between any VAG interior.

[Christian85]

Does absolutely nothing for me.

[the-photographer]

andybu said:

Never mind the technical virtues of the Golf GTI MK 7. It's main virtue, for those of us who buy our cars second-hand & for cash, is that prices on the MK5's and 6's will start to slide once the 7 has got going in the marketplace.

I've had a late-ish MK 5 or a leggy 6 on my watch list for a while, but the numbers stay stubbornly higher than what's in my piggy bank. Here's hoping that by the late autumn the depreciation gravity has done its work...

I don't think it will impact the MK5's at £10,000 and below. But 2011-2012-2013 MK6's, yes.

[kambites]

I must admit I'm quite surprised at the strength of the residuals of the mk6. I can't really see what it does just justify them?

[va1o]

kambites said:

I must admit I'm quite surprised at the strength of the residuals of the mk6. I can't really see what it does just justify them?

Well it's one of the most loved and most well rated hatchbacks in recent times thanks to its superb all round ability. This translates into it been desirable and sought after on the used market resulting in high prices. Other than that its just supply and demand in action