Wheel Failure - Scary Time...

Wheel Failure - Scary Time...

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HellaflushGT

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38 posts

169 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Not posted on here for a couple of years, but I thought I'd make you aware of my experience so that somebody in the future could possibly avoid this.

I have a Mitsubishi Evolution VI GSR running around 300hp and was on a spirited drive. As I turned, quite sharply into a large roundabout, this occured, with no impact or collision.



To note, these are genuine wheels!

Any clues as to their failure?

All the other wheels are similarly cracking in the same place, too.

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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holy cow

well a least it kinda stayed on the car and you was at a low speed.

RichTBiscuit

430 posts

151 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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WOW!

Definitely genuine? all stamped and embossed with O.Z logos?

Otherwise, i'd suspect the wheel was damaged before hand by a pothole or similar and the roundabout was the final straw.....


taylor172

833 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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HOLY GIRAFFE, as above 100% genuine?

id be changing all of those before i drove that car again. scary

LouD86

3,279 posts

153 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Saying that the other 3 are cracking in a similar place, it would be car on stands, all wheels off for me at the moment! Thats scary!!!

Is it something bought on by the slicks, the huge amount of force that is placed on the wheel?

fjord

2,143 posts

137 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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The wheels comitted suicide after being painted red.

On a serious note, i guess the prong at 1 o'clock failed first? It seems the most bent.

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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benje

168 posts

245 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Are they a standard colour, if not were they powder coated?

vtgts300kw

598 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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I think they are the VI GSR factory wheels?

If so, they've been painted/ powder coated from OEM, which ( I believe ) can cause metal fatigue??

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Be interesting to hear what OZ have to say about it.

ETA. I've just typed 'oz wheels cracking' into Google. Seems cracks are a common issue!

Edited by paintman on Wednesday 8th May 11:18

Squiggs

1,520 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Herbs said:
Beat me to it!

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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vtgts300kw said:
I think they are the VI GSR factory wheels?

If so, they've been painted/ powder coated from OEM, which ( I believe ) can cause metal fatigue??
Why and how would that cause metal fatique? confused

Dracoro

8,683 posts

245 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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WeirdNeville said:
I think the tyres may have something to do with it.
They look like road legal slicks. Far more grip so where normally a tyre would spin/slide, that stress has to go somewhere else - the wheel. If the wheel is faulty then that stress could cause the breakage.

The tolerances should be higher though, wheels shouldn't break like that, no matter the tyre.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

198 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Certainly shouldn't do that, I have genuine OZ Ultraleggera delivered straight from the factory, I have hit one very, very hard on the edge of where two bits of runway meet on a track day, massive bang and jolt as if hitting a kerb head on - all it resulted in was a minor buckle, been used for years since without issue.

Edited by Herman Toothrot on Thursday 9th May 20:15

AlexIT

1,491 posts

138 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Scary, especially as you say all other wheels have signs of stress.
I'd also argue if those are really OZ wheels or fakes, tbh. Did you get them from new?

I had a similar damage to my OZ F1's original fitted to my Clio 172, but was after a hefty shock, surely not on a roundabout. And my car has been running 50% of the time with A048s or R888s.

I would anyway contact OZ, at least to make sure the wheels come from them.

Glad nothing worst happened tough smile

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,227 posts

200 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Let's be honest - those wheels just don't look beefy enough.
It's only aluminium at the end of the day. I often see wheels on cars and wonder how they can be strong enough to handle the load.
I remember a few years ago someone posting a picture of an aluminium motorcycle handlebar bracket that had snapped off mid corner, leaving the rider with only one handle bar to contend with.
As you say - scary!

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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eek That's scary!

HellaflushGT said:
All the other wheels are similarly cracking in the same place, too.
I'd be interested to see some photos if you have any.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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WeirdNeville said:
Some painting processes involve heating the wheel. If the wheel has been specially tempered, that process could de-temper it.

Unlikely though, I'll agree.
The process itself doesn't cause metal fatigue (since no cyclic stress is applied), but powder coating temperature can definitely be high enough to cause material changes in aluminium alloys. There have been failures attributable to this, and some powder coat places refuse to coat wheels for this reason.

Hasbeen

2,073 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Let's be honest - those wheels just don't look beefy enough.
It's only aluminium at the end of the day. I often see wheels on cars and wonder how they can be strong enough to handle the load.
I remember a few years ago someone posting a picture of an aluminium motorcycle handlebar bracket that had snapped off mid corner, leaving the rider with only one handle bar to contend with.
As you say - scary!
Yep. Too much style & not enough substance.

I wonder how many wheel designers are engineers & how many are graphic artists?

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Look to me like cheap imitation ones with OZ centre caps.

Were they red before you bought them or did you get it doen?